$1250 Workstation: High-End Performance for Mainstream Price

Mathieu Bourgie | October 7, 2010 | View Comments

Update Log
Version 1.01, last updated on November 11th 2010.

- Video Card: Upgraded from a Radeon 5550 1GB to a Radeon 5570 1GB. The previous Radeon HD 5550 cannot be found anywhere and no other Radeon 5550 support Eyefinity, hence the upgrade to a Radeon 5570 that supports Eyefinity.
- Hard Drive: Upgraded from four Samsung F4 320GB in RAID 10 to four Samsung F3 500GB in RAID 10. Total capacity goes up from 640GB to 1TB.
- Case: Changed from the LIAN LI PC-9F (Out of stock until December) to the NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK. The NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK features more hard drive bays, more ventilation options, as well as a fan controller, allowing you to adjust the fan speed/noise.
- Updated prices, build now costs $1245 instead of $1269, thanks mostly to RAM prices that went down significantly.
- Performance is pretty much the same as before.

NZXT Phantom

The inside of the NZXT Phantom, the case featured in this build.

This is the Mainstream $1250 Workstation Build, which offers similar performance and looks of an usual retail high-end Workstation, at a much lower price.

The $500 Workstation is the entry-level build, while the $2500 Workstation is the high-end build.

Why choose a Workstation Build?

Workstations are for you if you’re looking for a reliable machine, capable of:

  • Running 24/7
  • Handling various demanding applications
  • Be your workhorse for your work and livelihood.

All the Workstations offered on Hardware Revolution are designed with professional work in mind. Parts are hand-picked based on their reliability and performance.

Based on your comments and requests from the Workstation Builds: Throw in your Requests and Suggestions! post, I’ve come up with a list of recommendations, based on programs and their requirements.

Features and performance: $500 Workstation VS $1250 Workstation:

Features:

With both at stock (default recommended configuration):
The $1250 Workstation offers:

  • Much higher performance (Explained below)
  • Three times the RAM (12 GB vs 4GB)
  • More RAM bandwidth (Triple-Channel vs Dual-Channel)
  • More Storage, with higher performance and redundancy (4 x Samsung F4 500GB in RAID 10 (Total: 1TB) vs a single Samsung F4 320GB)
  • With a simple adapter (~$25), it is capable of handling up to three monitors (As opposed to two, by default, on the $500 Workstation)
  • Better Cooling (After-market CPU Cooler vs Stock CPU Cooler)
  • Better looks
  • And much more

Performance:
The $1250 Workstation stock vs the $500 Workstation stock, shows a performance improvement of:

  • 40% in Photoshop
  • 80% with X264 encoding
  • 44% in single threaded Cinebench R10, 77% with multi-threaded
  • 31% reduction in time required for a Blu-Ray Disc Image Creation (25Mbps MPEG-2) under Sony Vegas

For a complete analysis of performance difference, take a look at these benchmarks.
Now, keep in mind that this is when both Workstation are running a single application. If you run multiple apps, the $1250 Workstation, will continue running top-notch, while the $500 Workstation will eventually hit its limit (Run out of RAM, maxed out CPU, hard drive bottleneck, etc.)


Now, let’s see what happens if we upgrade the $500 Workstation with a Phenom II X6 1075T CPU:

The $1250 Workstation stock vs the $500 Workstation with a Phenom II X6 1075T CPU (Total cost: $640), shows a performance improvement of:

  • 21% in Photoshop
  • Is actually slower by 11% in X264 encoding
  • 15% in single threaded Cinebench R10, 8% with multi-threaded.

As you can see, with its fastest recommended CPU, the “$640 Workstation” gets much closer to the $1250 Workstation stock. For a complete analysis of performance difference, take a look at these benchmarks.
Once again, keep in mind that this is when both Workstation are running a single application. If you run multiple apps, the $1250 Workstation, will continue running top-notch, while the $500 Workstation will eventually hit its limit (Run out of RAM, hard drive bottleneck, etc.)

However, the CPU can also be upgraded with this $1250 Workstation, so let’s see what happens if we max it out.
The $1250 Workstation with a Core i7 980X (~$1950), in comparison to the $500 Workstation with a Phenom II X6 1075T CPU ($640), shows a performance improvement of:

  • 36% in Photoshop
  • 82% with X264 encoding
  • 24% in single threaded Cinebench R10, 59% with multi-threaded

With both Workstation ($500 and $1250) with their respective maxed-out CPU upgrade, you can see that the $1250 Workstation stock leaves the $500 Workstation in the dust, especially with X264 encoding or multi-threaded Cinebench R10. For a complete analysis of performance difference, take a look at these benchmarks.
Yes, once again, keep in mind that this is when both Workstation are running a single application. If you run multiple apps, the $1250 Workstation, will continue running top-notch, while the $500 Workstation will eventually hit its limit (Run out of RAM, hard drive bottleneck, etc.)

Which Workstation and/or upgrades do you need for your apps?

The following applications will have no trouble running on the $1250 Workstation:

  • Microsoft Office
  • Microsoft Project and Office Pro
  • Camtasia
  • Sound Forge: Consider a dedicated sound card.
  • Visual Studio
  • Sage Timberline Office: Go with Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate; apparently the Home Premium edition will give you problems with networking.
  • Rhino3D
  • CorelDRAW Premium Suite X5
    Pinnacle Studio 12 and Sony Vegas 9/Pro
    Cinema 4D: While it will run just fine with the $1250 Workstation as it is, this is an application which scales very well when you add performance to your PC, meaning that the better that are your parts, the faster that your renderings will be completed. A Firepro/Quadro will greatly improve performance, so will a Core i7 980X. Keep in mind that performance will benefit even more by going with the $2500 Workstation.
  • GPGPU, F@H, SETI, GPUGRID, BOINC, etc.: These programs will run best on a powerful GPU. Considering the price point of this build, I recommend getting either a Geforce GTX 460 768MB, a card that offers performance unheard of before at its $170 price point or a Sapphire Vapor-X Radeon HD 5870 1GB, a powerful video card that keeps power consumption, temperatures and noise at a reasonable level. Gaming PCs are also an excellent alternative, if top-notch reliability isn’t as crucial.

Adobe Applications: Creative Suite 5 Master Collection, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Lightroom, Illustator, Indesign, Bridge, Bibble, Flash, Dreamweaver, etc.

There are a lot of people out there who use those applications, in various ways. If anything, you’re the one who’s using your workstation and who knows the best how demanding (or not) your work is.

My point being that you should know that, for example, working with very large images (High-MP RAW, 16-bit, Hundred of MBs or several GBs each) will obviously be much more demanding than working with smaller pictures (10-15MBs each from an entry-level DSLR for example). I say pictures here, but this also applies in the same way to video, 3D, designing, modeling, etc.

That said, while I will do my best to make “generic” recommendations based on various scenarios, I recommend that you use your own work experience/judgment (how demanding it is on your PC) to make your decision. I’ll also be available to answer your questions in the comment section below this article.

Adobe Applications: Let’s get started:

This $1250 Workstation, as it is without upgrades, is capable of handling a few active Adobe application, with tons (100+) of small files, many (30-40) medium or several (10-15) large file(s).

For example, with Photoshop, expect to be capable of handling up to sixty 10-15MB open pictures at once or so before your PC will start slowing down, as it runs out of RAM.

Of course, these are guidelines, the actual number of files that your Workstation will be capable to handle will depend on how heavy/demanding those files are.

RAM upgrade available

If you need to handle more files than that, want to be on the safe side or simply want to be future-proof, you can choose to upgrade and go with 24GB of RAM too.

Processor upgrade available

Now, while more RAM will help you keep your PC running smooth with many files open, it won’t speed up its processing speed while you’re actually working on files. This is where your CPU comes in: The faster that it is, the faster that your task will be rendered/completed/etc.

If you can afford it, I highly recommend upgrading the CPU to the Core i7 980x, as it will provide a ~20% performance improvement over the Core i7 950 and will allow you to run more applications simultaneously.

Also keep in mind that if do work on several applications at the same time (i.e. you let a few apps do their work in the background while you work on another app), this could cause slowdowns, even with the i7 980X. I recommend going with the $2500 Workstation to handle many (5+) applications working at once for the ultimate performance when it comes to a Workstation.

Several apps (i.e Premiere Pro CS5, After Effects and Photoshop) support Nvidia CUDA hardware acceleration; a Nvidia Geforce or Quadro Video Card, instead of the recommended Radeon card, is highly recommended to improve performance.

Adobe Applications: In short: The $1250 Workstation, as it is, for three or four Adobe applications at once, will be capable on handling a good amount of work with tons of small files, a lot of medium files and many large files, how many depending on the amount of RAM, at a very good level of performance.

For example, if you’re a pro photographer who works with a high-MP camera, with RAW, HDR, 16-bit pictures and the like, this $1250 Workstation, with a Geforce/Quadro Video Card, will have no problem handling your workload, along with another 2-3 apps in the background.

However, if you like to another 5+ apps working intensively in the background, I’d at least upgrade the CPU to a Core i7 980X or even better, consider the upcoming dual-CPU $2500 Workstation. Once again, I’m using pictures/photographers as an example, but this applies to other professionals as well.

Hopefully, this clears it up for most of you who use Adobe applications. If you need clarifications and/or if you have questions, leave a comment with your questions (be as specific as possible) below this post and I’ll get back to you.

The following applications require upgrades:

Nvidia CUDA: This requires a Nvidia video card.

Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5.0 and Autocad programs: For Autocad programs, you’ll want a professional level video card, such as AMD Firepro or Nvidia Quadro. The faster, the better, this kind of apps will greatly benefit from additional CPU/GPU processing power, so I recommend upgrading the CPU to a Core i7 980X if you can afford it. For even better performance, consider the upcoming $2500 Workstation with two CPUs.

Other Programs

Got another program that you’d like to know if it would run well on the $500 Workstation or would require upgrades or a more powerful Workstation? Leave a comment at the end of this article and I’ll get back to you with my recommendations.

Which upgrades should you consider if you want…

  • An energy efficient and low noise Workstation: For lower power consumption, you’ll want to upgrade the power supply to the 80PLUS Gold certified recommended upgrade, as this will greatly reduce power consumption. Exactly how much is hard to tell, but a good 30W to 60W is achievable with that change alone. Noise should be pretty low already.
  • Very quick program startups: The default RAID 10 array of four drives should be pretty fast already, but a SSD will speed things even more.
  • Casual Gaming: See the detailed Video Card section further down in this article.

$1250 Workstation hardware parts recommendations, short summary:

Explanation:

  • In Bold, you’ll find my recommendations for the parts that you should buy in order to have the best overall performance while fitting the overall budget.
  • In Italic, you’ll find the best possible upgrades: these are the parts that offer better features or more performance, while still being relatively affordable in regard to the overall budget. In simple terms, if you want more RAM for example, pick a kit from the list of recommended upgrades that are in Italic.
  • Note that all upgrades are compatible with the rest of the system, as well as other upgrades, meaning that you can choose one or many upgrades without a problem. Of course, please carefully read any note(s) that I may leave to clarify and avoid some possible issues.

Required components:

Components Make, Model and Specifications Price
CPU/Processor Intel Core i7-950 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core
Intel Core i7-970 3.2GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core
Intel Core i7-980X EE 3.33GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core
$295
$880
$1000
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 $200
RAM G.SKILL 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 1333MHz CAS 9 1.5v
G.SKILL 24GB (6 x 4GB) DDR3 1333MHz CAS 9 1.5v
$195
$490
Video Card Radeon HD 5570 1GB
Nvidia Quadro 2000 1GB
Nvidia Quadro 4000 2GB
Nvidia Quadro 5000 2.5GB
Sapphire Radeon 5770 FleX – Supports 3 DVI monitors
VisionTek Radeon HD 4670 X2 2GB Four Dual-Link DVI
Radeon HD 6870 1GB
$85
$450
$780
$1780
$175
$300
$240
Storage Required: At least one 18″ SATA Cable W/ Metal Latch
Four Samsung F3 500GB RAID 10: Capacity: 1TB
Four Samsung F3 1TB RAID 10: Capacity: 2TB
Intel X25-M 2.5″ 80GB SSD
Intel X25-M 2.5″ 160GB SSD
LG N2R1DD1 1TB x 1 2 Bays, RAID 1 support NAS w/ DVD-RW
Synology DS210j Diskless 2-bay NAS RAID 1 support
$4
$184
$248
$195
$400
$300
$200
Optical Drive ASUS Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner
LITE-ON 4X Blu-ray Reader SATA
LG 10X Blu-ray Burner SATA
$20
$50
$100
Power SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
SeaSonic M12II 620W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular
SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular
PC Power and Cooling Mk II 750W 80 PLUS SILVER Certified
UPS/Surge Protector:
CyberPower 1350 VA 810 Watts 8 Outlets
$75
$100

$140
$140

$150
Case NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK $140
Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler
ARCTIC COOLING MX-4 Thermal Compound
$37
$10
Sound 8 channels sound card: Integrated on the motherboard
DIAMOND 7.1, SPDIF In/Out via Coaxial, 24-bit 96KHz PCI
M-AUDIO Audiophile 2496 PCI 4-In-4-Out w/ MIDI
Creative X-Fi Titanium HD 24-bit 96KHz PCI-Express
ASUS Xonar D2X SPDIF In/Out Coaxial, MIDI, PCIe x1
ASUS Xonar D2 SPDIF In/Out Coaxial, MIDI, PCI
Creative X-Fi SPDIF In/Out TOSLINK 5.25″ Front Panel PCIe 1x
ASUS Xonar Essence STX w/ 1/4″ Jack In/Out, etc. PCIe x1
ASUS Xonar Essence ST w/ 1/4″ Jack In/Out, etc. PCI
Free
$30
$95
$170
$180
$180
$200
$200
$210
Network Integrated Ethernet RJ-45 10/100/1000 Mbps
Rosewill Wireless USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n w/ 5 dBi Antenna
Free
$30
Total price Not Including OS, Shipping nor handling. Within -/+ 5% of Budget $1245

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$1250 Workstation Hardware parts recommendations, detailed version:

Motherboard:

ASUS Sabertooth X58

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0

I went for the ASUS Sabertooth X58 as my main recommendation for the $1250 Workstation for its high reliability, almost a rare thing with an Intel X58 chipset motherboard. I also picked it because it features a large variety of ports capable of handling the majority of your devices, including USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0Gb/s.

Features:
The ASUS Sabertooth X58 features a ceramic-coating on its heatsinks, to provide better heat dissipation, “TUF” Capacitors, Chokes and MOSFETS, which are certified by military standard to ensure greater durability and best of all, a 5 years warranty, a testament to how reliable ASUS feels that this motherboard is.

Back Ports:
On the back, you have with eight USB ports, two of them being USB 3.0 ports, two E-SATA, FireWire, one PS/2, Gigabit LAN and 8 Channels audio.

Expansion ports + Storage Ports on the board:

Three PCI-Express 2.0 16X (16x/16x/4x), two PCI-Express 1X and one PCI slots, six SATA 3.0Gb/s ports, with RAID 0/1/5/10/JBOD support and two SATA 6.0 Gb/s. Note that the board does not support floppy drives nor IDE-based drives.

Additional information:
Note that the motherboard includes only four SATA cable, so you NEED to buy at least one of the following: 18″ SATA Cable, Straight to Left Angle W/ Metal Latch, since the build features four hard drives and one optical drive, for a total of five SATA drives. Of course, adjust as require if you add drives.

CPU:

Intel Core i7 950

Intel Core i7-950 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core

VS the other contender in the same price range:
For $300, there’s the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T, AMD’s highest-end CPU, a Six-Core 3.2GHz CPU.

The Phenom II X6 1090T is a powerful CPU, don’t get me wrong. However, as you can see in these benchmarks, it gets outperformed in the vast majority of cases by the Intel Core i7 950.

In short, despite having 6 cores to help it, the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T can’t compete with the quad-core Intel Core i7 950, because the i7 950 performs better clock for clock and has Hyper-Threading to help it handle up to 8 threads at a time, compared to 6 for the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T.

More importantly, the Intel Core i7 950 isn’t Intel’s fastest CPU, leaving you the option to upgrade to one of Intel’s two Six-Core powerhouse CPUs.

Recommended upgrades:

  1. Intel Core i7-970 3.2GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core – This is Intel’s second fastest processor, with six cores running at 3.2GHz. Compared to the i7 950, those two extra cores helps the i7 970 proves itself as it clearly outperforms the i7 950.
  2. Intel Core i7-980X EE 3.33GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core – With six cores clocked at 3.33GHz, the Core i7 980X is the fastest consumer CPU currently available on the market. With Hyper-Threading, it can handle nothing short of twelve threads. Even though it’s not by a huge margin, it has no problem outperforming the Core i7 970.

Video Card:

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5570

Radeon HD 5570 1GB

The X58 chipset/LGA 1366 socket platform that this Workstation is based on does not offer any integrated video card option, so you require a video card.

I recommend the Radeon HD 5570 for the following reasons:

1. Its powerful enough and has plenty enough memory (1GB) to help accelerate programs UI, video decoding and the like. It’s a nice “basic” video card, good enough for many applications that can use such a card to speed up things.

2. It has three video outputs:

  1. Dual-Link DVI: Max. resolution up to 2560×1600 @60Hz
  2. Displayport
  3. VGA: Max. resolution up to 2048×1536 @85Hz

3. It is capable of outputting to two monitors at once by default. Here’s the great part though: The Displayport can be hooked to a simple ~$25 adapter (VGA or DVI) to run a 3rd monitor at the same time. I’ve linked to such adapters right below:

Run up to four DVI displays:

If you rather have three DVI outputs (One Dual-Link and Two Single-Link), go with the Sapphire Radeon 5770 FleX – Supports 3 DVI monitors which supports 3 DVI outputs “out of the box”, sorta. You simply need to use the included HDMI-to-DVI adapter and you’ll have three DVI outputs, capable of handling three monitors with a resolution up to 1920 x 1200.

Guess what? If you add one of the adapters that I’ve linked to above, you can run up to four monitors with that video card. Add a second one and you can handle up to 8 monitors using two adapters.

To run up to four dual-link DVI displays (e.g. 2560 x 1600 30″ monitors):

The following video card supports four Dual-Link DVI outputs and will handle four 2560 x 1600 or smaller resolution monitors: VisionTek Radeon HD 4670 X2 2GB Four Dual-Link DVI

Professional 3D Workstation Video Cards:

What applications benefit from or truly need AMD Firepro or Nvidia Quadro Cards and what’s the difference between consumer cards (Radeon/Geforce) and professional cards (FirePro/Quadro)?

Accuracy & reliability:

“Exact pinpoint renders for things such as vehicle/building/contraption etc design, think many moving parts working together such as an engine prototype….things where a millimeter or so off could mean hundreds of thousands of dollars or much much more lost or even death…. They are tools for professionals, and if you really need one you’ll know it.

Gaming cards and workstation cards are very similar, but the differences are major. Consumer cards are built for speed at the cost of accuracy, gaming renders need to be fast…not perfect.

Workstation cards are the opposite, they need to be perfectly accurate at all times, speeds good but not priority, major differences in the cards are ECC ram (expensive, but a lost bit could be catastrophic) and very robust and detailed driver support…the drivers are really where the bulk of the expense comes from and , they have to work and have to work well, we gripe and moan about bugs in our games…when the card is holding you back from your livelihood….

It cost money to make money and or move things forward to a large degree, great designs aren’t doodled out on a napkin in a country diner anymore.

Similar to other class of products on the market, i.e consumer vs pro cameras:

There are many products out that scale the same way, look at cameras, a $200 point and shoot for the trip to disney world or the $5000+++ used to shoot what we see in magazines and such, a nice solid sub $500 Asian import guitar vs a $3K+ made in the USA model, the latter has better quality components and much more time and care in construction.

Back to the cards a lot of pro level applications will work to a degree on consumer cards (with some hacking and preening), but thats more like an artists sketch pad….good for practice and education, or proof of concept work but nothing mission critical…for most pro applications key features are disabled and their is no formal support unless a proper card is being used.”

“Workstation card core chips are mostly identical to the consumer grade stuff (except for the memory controller), but everything around it is usually made of much higher quality components. The heatsinks and fans are made of better materials etc. etc.”

Thanks to our reader EBOBO and the folks on the forums of DesktopReview.com for that great explanation.

Other than that, Quadros and Firepros have optimizations in their drivers for various specific applications as well for the usual workload that a Workstation will be used for. These optimizations are only activated when a Quadro or Firepro is detected.

FirePro vs Quadro:
Performance wise, the latest Quadro line-up (Quadro 600, 2000, 4000, 5000 and 6000, avoid the older FX series) has the edge over the FirePro series. Drivers wise, this is also the case, with Nvidia drivers being more stable, Quadro cards supported by more applications and finally, their drivers are more optimized for greater performance in some applications.

While the AMD FirePro line-up of cards can be an interesting alternative thanks to their relatively low cost, they are just not supported by as many applications as the Nvidia Quadro line-up cards are.

Needless to say, I’m sure that you’ll want to get top-notch performance all over the place in all apps, including Adobe apps and top-notch drivers, hence why I only recommend Nvidia Quadro cards in this build, when it comes down to professional cards.

If you work mainly on 3D rendering, Autocad programs and the like:
I do recommend upgrading the video card to one of the following Quadro cards. The following list is in order of price and performance, from the least expensive/least powerful to the most expensive/most powerful:

  1. Nvidia Quadro 2000 1GB – The Quadro 2000 1GB is the minimum that you should get, as it packs twice the processing power of the Quadro 600, which is not powerful enough, in my opinion, the handle typical workloads, especially in the long-run.
  2. Nvidia Quadro 4000 2GB – Moving up from the 2000 to the 4000 will bring in about 30% more processing power and twice the RAM.
  3. Nvidia Quadro 5000 2.5GB – Moving up from the 4000 to the 5000 brings in about 40% more processing power and a tad more RAM.

There’s also a Quadro 6000. However, considering it costs over three times the budget for this build, it makes no sense to recommend it here. Besides, I’d recommend upgrading to the $2500 Workstation first, in order to be capable of fully taking advantage of the processing power offered by the Quadro 6000.

To play Video Games:

If you want a video card to play some video games, I recommend the Radeon HD 6870 1GB, which is an excellent mid-range video card capable of handling the vast majority of games at 1920 x 1080 (1080p).

RAM:

G.SKILL 12GB 3 x 4GB

G.SKILL 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 1333MHz CAS 9 1.5v

12GB of RAM will allow you to run multiple programs, with multiple files open at the same time, without resolving to reading/writing back and forth to your hard drive and bringing your PC to its knees.

Not to mention Windows and background background such as your anti-virus, web browser, music/video player and all those programs running in the background, that all consumes precious resources.

I went with G.Skill for their high reliability and compatibility with the majority of motherboards. I chose these particular sticks due to their high level of reliability, a must for a Workstation, as well as their standard voltage, 1.5v, which results in sticks that will work right out of the box, without having to adjust any BIOS settings.

Recommended upgrades

  1. If you work with a lot of very large (100MB+) files and tend to have 5 or more demanding applications running at once, or simply to be future-proof, get 24GB of RAM with this 6 x 4GB memory kit: G.SKILL 24GB (6 x 4GB) DDR3 1333MHz CAS 9 1.5v

Hard Drive:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB

Four SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB SATA in RAID 10.
Total Capacity: 1TB

For this $1250 Workstation, I’m recommending four Samsung F3 500GB, in a RAID 10 array, for a total capacity of 1TB.

Note that the motherboard includes only four SATA cable, so you NEED to buy at least one of the following: 18″ SATA Cable, Straight to Left Angle W/ Metal Latch

Why not go with SSDs, they are faster?!

Yes, SSDs are indeed faster in most cases. However, what they are not is reliable, which is crucial for a workstation, since you’re earning your livelihood from it. If your workstation goes down, you’re losing time and money.

Four hard drives in RAID 10 brings improved performance over a single drive, while also bringing redundancy, so that you do not lose data if a drive (or two, one in each cluster) fails.

Four Drives in RAID 10 or 0+1
Best for: When performance and data protection are both crucial.
RAID 0+1 or 10 basically is a combination of RAID 0 and 1.

Using four hard drives, you get:
- The capacity of two drives.
- Redundancy, so if a drive in any cluster, or two drives (one from each cluster) fails, you do not lose data, you are still able to use the PC but just like RAID 1, you will need to replace the drive and rebuild the RAID array before regaining redundancy and data loss protection.
- Top-notch performance, since the data is spread across two clusters of two drives (Each cluster being basically a RAID 1 array), basically combining the read and write performance of two logical drives (each RAID 1 cluster) into one ultra-fast array.

1TB isn’t enough for you? No problem, you can stick with the same RAID 10 solution with the following upgrade:

Recommended upgrades:

SSD (Solid State Drive):
Best for: When you need the OS, applications to load much faster and when performance is your absolute priority.
Note that SSDs are still a relatively new technology, so they are not are reliable as hard drives yet, in my opinion.

Like any other storage solution, backups over various locations (external hard drive, NAS, online server, optical disks, USB key, etc.) are recommended.

Recommendations for SSDs:

Why Intel SSDs? One very simple reason: Reliability. From my research and customers feedback, Intel appear to manufacture the most reliable SSDs right now, hence why I recommend them for a Workstation.

Do note that I do NOT recommend running only a SSD as the only drive in a system, for the obvious storage capacity issue, but more importantly, because if it fails, you’ll lose all your data.

My recommendation would be to have one SSD, along with four drives in RAID 10, so that you still have performance and redundancy from the hard drives. Four SSDs in RAID 10 would also be an option, except that it would be really expensive, too much to recommend it for this build in my opinion.

The Intel SSDs include a 2.5″ to 3.5″ bracket, so no need to worry about that.

NAS (Network Attached Storage)
If the data on your Workstation is crucial and/or needs to be shared on a network with other computers, a NAS is an investment to look into.

The two recommendations that I make below allow for RAID 1, which I highly recommend since if you only use a single drive and that it fails, you’ll lose all of its data.

The LG N2R1DD1 1TB x 1 2 Bays, RAID 1 support NAS w/ DVD-RW comes with a single 1TB hard drive, as well as a DVD Burner. A good solution to start with, since it allows for easy backups on DVDs. I still recommend adding a second 1TB drive (there are two drive bays in total) and enabling RAID 1 for maximum data security.

The Synology DS210j Diskless 2-bay NAS RAID 1 support comes empty with no drive, allowing you to pick your own drives and to start with RAID 1 right off the bat.

Optical Drive:

ASUS Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner

ASUS Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner

This drive is able to read and burn CDs and DVDs. Silent (Except when it spins up to full speed obviously), compatible with all major formats including DVD-RAM.

Also, seeing as DVD Burners are often go out of stock lately, here are a two alternatives that you can use to replace it. All are SATA based.

  1. LITE-ON Black 24X SATA Black CD/DVD Writer
  2. HP Black 24X SATA 24X CD/DVD Writer – Retail

Upgrades:

If you’d like to watch BluRay movies or TV shows, this LITE-ON 4X Blu-ray Reader SATA will do the job. However, note that it can only READ CDs, DVDs and Bluray disks, not burn any of them.

If you want the ability to burn disks as well, the LG 10X Blu-ray Burner SATA is what you want.

Regarding Blu-Ray playback:

As far as I know, you still require a specific software to playback Blu-Ray disks on a PC. Based on various reviews and feedback on various forums, PowerDVD 9 Ultra is the software that I recommend to you. It is fully compatible with Windows 7 and shouldn’t give you any problems.

Case:

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK

When you get a powerful workstation like this one, you want a case to match it, that’s capable of keeping your components cool under load, without being too noisy.

With a minimalism style design and a brushed aluminum finish, the LIAN LI PC-9F offers a nice classy look, for a change from all the flashy Gaming cases with LEDs and the like.

  • Cooling wise, this case includes three low-speed 120mm case fans, as well as one 200mm case fan to ensure proper cooling, without being too noisy. Best of all? You can control the fan speed/noise individually with the controls on top of the case.

Features wise, you get:

  1. A solid case. No flimsy panel, nor sharp edges here.
  2. Support for up to seven hard drives
  3. Excellent wire management, keeping the inside of your case clean and with nothing in the way of airflow.
  4. 2x USB 2.0, E-SATA, Audio out, MIC in at the top

Power Supply:

SeaSonic S12II 620W

SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified

This power supply has a maximum power output of 620W, not that should rely only on this information only as I often point in posts such as Warning: 6 Surefire Ways of Blowing Up Your Computer Due to an Inadequate Power Supply.

More importantly, it can output a maximum of 48A on the 12V line, one of the most important factors when it comes to choosing a power supply.

Best of all, it is 80 PLUS Bronze certified, meaning that it’s always at least 82% efficient, resulting in less heat, more silence and a lower electricity bill for you, compared to a less efficient power supply.

This Build Power Requirements:

Note that unlike Gaming PCs, the figures here are based on power requirements, not on power consumption, because I wanted to allow for more overhead with Workstation Builds, as they have to be more reliable and are often on 24/7. This also allows for greater efficiency, since most power supplies are more efficient at a 50% load compared to say, a 80% load.

According to the eXtreme Power Supply Calculator and information from Tom’s Hardware, AnandTech and Hardware.fr, it is estimated that this system will require (not consume) at load (peak usage) a power supply capable of delivering:

  • 384W with the recommended Core i7 950, Radeon 5550, three sticks of DDR3 RAM, four hard drives and this build without upgrades.
  • ~465W with an Intel Core i7 980X, Radeon 5770/FirePro V7800/Quadro 4000, six sticks of DDR3 RAM, four hard drives, one SSD and this build without other upgrades.
  • 534W with an Intel Core i7 980X, Geforce GTX 460 768MB, six sticks of DDR3 RAM, four hard drives, one SSD and this build without other upgrades.
  • 565W with an Intel Core i7 980X, Radeon HD 5870 1GB, six sticks of DDR3 RAM, four hard drives, one SSD and this build without other upgrades.

For Workstations, I recommend an overhead of 150 to 200W for the power supply, to ensure reliable operation over the years, as the power supply components age and lose output capacity.

The recommended power supply will have no problem handling basic upgrades, such as CPU, RAM, some Video Cards and additional drives upgrades.

The only cases where I would recommend upgrading the power supply to a more powerful one (feel free to get a modular or more efficient below in any case), is if you decide to get either a Gaming Video (i.e Geforce GTX 460/Radeon HD 5870) or two video cards of any kind.

Recommended upgrades:

  1. SeaSonic M12II 620W 80PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular – This power supply offers the same characteristics as my recommendation above, except that it comes with modular power cables, allowing you to only plug and use the cables that you actually need, which results in a cleaner build and less of a cable mess inside of your case.
  2. SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular – With this power supply, you get the best of both worlds: Modular cables and high efficiency with 80 PLUS Gold certification. With 650W, this power supply will handle all upgrades except for a dual powerful video cards setup.
  3. PC Power and Cooling Mk II 750W 80 PLUS SILVER Certified – If you plan on with a dual video cards setup now or later, this is what you need. On top of delivering up to 750W, this unit is certified 80 PLUS Silver, resulting in less heat, more silence and a lower electricity bill for you, compared to a less efficient power supply. Best of all? This is a PC Power and Cooling power supply,backed up by a 7 years warranty.

UPS/Surge Protector:

I highly recommend getting a UPS, especially if you’re in an area with a lot of thunderstorms or in a house with older electric wiring. If you lose power, the UPS will keep your PC running for a few minutes, enough for you to save your work and to properly shutdown your PC.

The recommended UPS below also protects against electrical surges, protecting your PC and other equipment plugged into the UPS, from dangerous power surges, which are one of the main causes of defective computers.

PC components are extremely fragile and the last thing that you want is to plug all that expensive equipped straight in a power outlet. You want it plugged in a surge protector (featured in the UPS units below), which will protect your expensive equipment.

My recommendation:

Cooling:

ZALMAN CNPS10X Performa

ZALMAN CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler

This Workstation is equipped with an highly powerful 130W TDP CPU, so you need proper cooling to keep your CPU at a reasonable temperature, in order to ensure reliability, even when you run your workstation under a 24/7 load.

The Zalman CNPS10X Performa offers top-notch cooling performance similar to some of the best CPU Coolers (see a review here and here), while costing about half their price, hence why I recommend for this build.

Thermal Compound:
The thermal compound is what you’ll put between the CPU and the CPU Cooler, and its job is to transfer heat between the two. Using an high-quality thermal compound ensure that your CPU temperatures will be as low as possible.

I recommend the ARCTIC COOLING MX-4 Thermal Compound, because it offers top-notch cooling performance, while being non-conductive (Unlike Arctic Silver 5 for example) so that you don’t have to worry if you drop some on an electric contact.

Sound Card: 8 channels sound card: Integrated on the motherboard

Integrated with the motherboard, this sound card will handle many different sound setups, including headphones, a microphone and more. While integrated audio on a PC used to be absolutely horrible, it has gotten much better in the last few years, thus why I have no trouble recommending it.

However, if you have an high-end setup, are an audiophile or do professional work with audio and that an integrated sound card won’t jut cut it, here are some recommendations, in order of price:

  1. DIAMOND 7.1, SPDIF In/Out via Coaxial, 24-bit 96KHz PCI
  2. M-AUDIO Audiophile 2496 PCI 4-In-4-Out w/ MIDI
  3. Creative X-Fi Titanium HD 24-bit 96KHz PCI-Express
  4. ASUS Xonar D2X SPDIF In/Out Coaxial, MIDI, PCIe x1
  5. ASUS Xonar D2 SPDIF In/Out Coaxial, MIDI, PCI
  6. Creative X-Fi SPDIF In/Out TOSLINK 5.25″ Front Panel PCIe 1x
  7. ASUS Xonar Essence STX w/ 1/4″ Jack In/Out, etc. PCIe x1
  8. ASUS Xonar Essence ST w/ 1/4″ Jack In/Out, etc. PCI

Seeing as there are a variety of audio setups, with a variety of jacks and the like, I invite you to simply pick the best card, according to your needs. Make sure to double-check the specifications and pictures, to see the Inputs/Outputs as well as included accessories.

PCI-Express 1x vs PCI Sound Card: Depends on your video card, to double check!

Finally, keep in mind possible clearance issues if you intend to have two video cards in your system. Some of the sound cards above are PCI based, while some are PCI-Express 1x (PCIe 1x) based.

With the ASUS Sabertooth X58, you have a PCI-Express 1x slot above the video card first PCI-Express 16x slot, which I recommend using.

If you need a PCI-based sound for any reason, I recommend moving your video card to the second PCI-Express slot, so that the sound card doesn’t starve your video card for air.

Network: Ethernet RJ-45 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN: Integrated on the motherboard

Integrated on the motherboard, this network adapter will allow you to access your local network and Internet.

However, if a LAN network is not an option or if a wireless network is preferable for you, I recommend the Rosewill RNX-N180UBE Wireless USB 2.0 Dongle 802.11b/g/n w/ 5 dBi Antenna, which connects in a USB 2.0 port. It comes with a base, so that you can move it away from the PC for better reception and a 5dBi external antenna to improve reception further. Support 802.11b/g/n.

Recommended operating systems:

The operating system cost, if there’s one, is not included in the total cost. The two reason for this are:

  1. The budget only considers hardware.
  2. You may be able re-use a previous license, go with an open-source OS such as Linux or , if you’re so inclined and are aware of what you’re doing, use torrents.

If you decide that you need a need OS, here are some recommendations:

Windows 7

Despite Linux gaining more and more support, Windows still is the platform of choice for compatibility at the moment. Considering that you’ll have 4GB of RAM and if you want to be able to add RAM or a dedicated video card, you’ll need a 64-bit version, as 32-bit is limited to 4GB of memory for the entire system, which is not enough now, nor in the future if you decide to upgrade.

Windows 7 is by far better than Windows Vista, looks better, more functional, less annoying, consumes less resources and brings DirectX 11 to the table.

Three Available Versions:

  1. Windows 7 Home Premium: The basic edition, with all the looks, most of the functionality and DirectX 11.
  2. Windows 7 Professional: If you want the virtual XP mode, you’ll need at least the Professional edition. Also required if you want to backup to a network, using the built-in backup mode in Windows.
  3. Windows 7 Ultimate: To help protect data on your PC and portable storage devices against loss or theft with BitLocker and to work and switch between 35 languages.

OEM vs Retail:

The OEM version allows you to only install it once on a computer. You cannot transfer the license to another computer in the future and you do not receive support from Microsoft. It’s the same type of license you get when you get Windows on a desktop or laptop that you buy from Dell, HP and such. It’s less expensive, but gives less flexibility. Ideal if you intend on keeping your computer for many years.

The Retail version is the full version, which allows you to transfer the license to another computer in the future and you can call Microsoft if you need any form of support. Ideal if you intend on upgrading/changing your computer down the road.

Other than that, you get the same features on both, only the license differs. The price between the two differs obviously.

Warning: Using more than 16GB of RAM?
If you do, make sure to pick either the professional or Ultimate version, because the home premium edition only supports up to 16GB.

OEM Versions:

  1. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM – $100
  2. Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit OEM – $140
  3. Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit OEM – $180

Retail Versions:

  1. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Retail – $177
  2. Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Retail – $250
  3. Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Retail – $263

Linux

A lot of people these days boots more than one OS. Linux is a wonderful choice: powerful, cool, and cheap. Take your pick of distributions and have fun! For Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, Slackware, and Mandrake, try Distrowatch.com, Cheapbytes.com, LinuxQuestions.org or one of the many others.

What about Word processing, Excel and other Windows-based programs that you need? Linux being an open platform, there are many free alternatives that will answer your needs. For Word/Excel and such, try OpenOffice.

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If you have any question(s) about the build, simply leave a comment below the article and I’ll reply to you within 24-48 hours usually.

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  • And many more…

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Conclusion

I’m really happy with how the $1250 Workstation turned out, both from a performance and look point of view.

It ended up being quite faster, better looking, more future-proof/upgradeable and more reliable than the previous $1000 Workstation, while offering similar performance and better reliability, at a lower cost than the previous $1500 Workstation.

I think that this is the best Workstation Build that $1250 can buy you.

Don’t agree with my choices? Have a suggestion to improve this build?

However, I do realize that even if I took a year to write this guide, it wouldn’t be perfect and it wouldn’t cover every possible software/scenario.

This is why if you don’t agree with one or several of my choices, think that you can come up with a way to improve this build, have requests, comments, etc. by all means, please let me know by leaving a comment below.

You might just be right and upon further research, if I agree with you, I’ll update the build as necessary.

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Simply drop a comment below to let me know. I’ll personally recommend to you an equivalent alternative and I will update the build shortly after.

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About Mathieu Bourgie: HR Founder - Computer expert with 11 years of experience in building, fixing and modifying PCs. Over the years, I’ve developed a passion for PC hardware and now I enjoy helping others build their own PCs! In April 2008, I launched Hardware Revolution and ... Read more at my about page .

  • Jyuan94

    Hey Matt is this new Zalman cpu cooler better than the cool master hyperx 212 that you used to recommend? its about 8$ more..

  • Rafael

    Hi Mathieu

    Probably a article about high performance storage will be very interesting complement for this texts! Now we're always dealing with big high definition video, hundreds of raw mega pixel photos, 3d scenes with 2 or more Gb of textures… I'm always have some problems setting up RAID and getting decent performance in Windows and Linux

    Please, just an idea if you have some time.

    BTW, your articles are probably one of the most correct, updated and impartial texts about computer setups. Please keep this great work.

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Jyuan94,

    It's far better, we're talking about an average cooler at an excellent price (Hyper 212 Plus) compared to one of best air CPU coolers (Zalman Performa), at a slightly higher price. Definitely worth the few extra dollars in my opinion.

    Take care,
    Mathieu

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Rafael,

    An article, about high performance storage, is something that I'll definitely consider, perhaps after I'm done with the $2500 Workstation.

    Speaking of the $2500 Workstation, I'm thinking that it's probably what you should aim for, since it will feature a SSD, along with four HDDs in RAID 10, not to mention the dual-CPUs of course. To be published soon, Tuesday at the latest.

    Take care,
    Mathieu

    BTW, your articles are probably one of the most correct, updated and impartial texts about computer setups. Please keep this great work.

    Thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/Jyuan94 Jason Yuan

    BTW, your articles are probably one of the most correct, updated and impartial texts about computer setups. Please keep this great work.

  • http://twitter.com/Jyuan94 Jason Yuan

    I second Rafael statement =D

  • Andrew J

    The Corsair Obsidian 700D (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139002) may be a nice case upgrade option, it features a sleek design, excellent cooling, tons of room to work with and so much more.

  • Bruce2mac

    Hi there, I notice that your build parts link to Newegg.com. Do you prefer it to Newegg.ca, or is it because most of your reader are in the US? Have you found that Newegg.ca is as reliable as the other? I think I'd rather deal in my own currency if possible. Also, not build-related but is there a way to remove the retweet thing on the build pages?

    Many thanks.

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Bruce2mac,

    It's simply because the majority of our readers are from the USA. I've ordered from .ca (.com won't ship to Canada) before, without any issues, some prices are actually better on .ca sometimes.

    As for the retweet, what's the issue with it? Did some changes to it yesterday, there might be a bug that slipped in.

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Did some changes to the social sharing tool, let me know what you think of it.

  • Bruce2mac

    You know, perhaps it was my browser, but it's all good now – you fixed it. I was getting a vertical block of frames (say 3″ high by 1/2″ wide) midway down the screen. When it was on the right it wasn't too bad, but today it turned up on the left and that was very inconvenient.

    Thanks for your feedback on Newegg. I'm dangerously close to a parts order for my first build. Whoever said you can't teach an old dog new tricks was wrong, and the credit will go to you, Mathieu.

    Cheers, from Victoria, BC.

  • KT

    Hi

    This is newbi question. If I used all these components as is with the Sabertooth and 12GB G-Skill would I have to tweak any thing in the BIOS settings or will the system fire-up 'As is' with default settings ?

    Also do I need to use antistaticlatex gloves ?

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    KT,

    It will fire up as it is.

    You'll need to set up the drives in a RAID 10 array (The motherboard manual includes instructions on how to do this) before installing Windows, as well as set the DVD Drive as the first drive on the boot list, to boot from the Windows disc. Once Windows is installed, simply put the hard drives first on the boot list, to boot Windows from the hard drives.

    Simply follow the instructions within manual/guides, take your time and all will go well.

    Take care,
    Mathieu

  • KT

    Thanks Mat. You are the best !

  • Jerry

    Mathieu, this is a truly appreciated service you're providing. First questions: any chance of an AMD system in this range? For a dozen years it's protected us from the gouging fury of a full Intel monopoly while speeding up progress, with alternatives that usually come at a big saving. What is it exactly that puts the Phenom II x6 1090T at a big disadvantage to a similarly-specked i7? It's $260 at the moment. Another mystery: Newegg offers 3 x 4G sticks of yr G.SKILL memory at $214 , and 6 for $790 — how can this be?! And how necessary to buy it all at once?

  • Jerry

    Currently out of stock and “de-activated” at Newegg:
    – 24G of G.Skill ddr3
    – Saphire Radeon 5550 card
    – Rosewell external antenna
    (I haven't checked all of the upgrade alternatives.)

  • Andrew J

    The Phenom II X6 1090T is outperformed by the Intel Core i7-950 for a couple of reasons.

    The Nehalem architecture that the Core i3/i5/i7 series uses is much faster than the aging K10 architecture AMD is using.
    The Core i7-950 has Turbo Boost, which greatly increases clock rate for applications where only one or two cores is used.
    Both of these factors make the Core i7-950 much better in real world performance 95% of the time as proven by these benchmarks here.

    RAM has several pricing factors besides amount such as CAS latency, voltage, timing, and speed. That's why you'll notice radically different prices for the same amount of RAM.

    You do not need to buy all the parts at once, however, if you get a dead part you only have 30 days to ship it back to newegg. If you order them separately you may find out that it's dead after the 30 days has expired. You can, however, still attempt to get the manufacturer to replace it, but going through newegg is much easier from my experience.

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    In reply to both Jerry and Andrew:

    I agree with your statement Jerry, AMD is Intel's counter-weight when it comes to bringing affordable CPUs that perform well.

    Thing is, when you get to the high-end, Intel simply has the edge right now, offering better performance at a given price.

    However, nothing is stopping you from going with the $500 Workstation and upgrade the CPU to the X6 1090T, RAM to 8GB/16GB and add any other upgrades that you want.

    Good to know too: The Phenom II X6 series (Not X4) features “Turbo Core” which increase the frequency of three out of six cores, when the other three cores are idle.

    As for the price of RAM: Six sticks of RAM cost more to manufacture and test than three sticks. Probably has to do with offer and demand too.

    Andrew is pretty much on the spot as for whether it's necessary or not to buy all parts at once.

    Take care,
    Mathieu

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Jerry,

    Thanks for letting me know, I'll make sure to update the build shortly.

    Take care,
    Mathieu

  • Jerry

    Andrew & Mathieu,

    Thanks for the speedy replies! As to the memory query, I was trying to ask if I could buy 24g as two purchases of the 12g set (3 sticks x 4g each) — that's currently $428 total at Newegg, whereas it would have cost $790 to buy the same amount as a single group of six sticks– a $360 premium over the same six bought the other way. THAT was the part I didn't get.

    I'm an old film editor starting from zero with video, and have no points of reference. Mathieu, will this $1250 system work fast on 720p 24fps .mov files, with up to three-camera set-ups and 8 audio tracks, on Vegas Pro 10? Then 1080p at 30 fps in 6 months or a year, and maybe CS5 if needed? No animation or 3D; nothing gigantic in the background, raw stills on GIMP the biggest but easy to curtail. 5-to10 min end products to start with, getting longer later. Would Firepro V5800 make a big difference for me? Will 12g of memory do at the start? No heavy professional pressure, but speed in all things would mean the luxury of revision, experiment, revision and more revision. A fast editing machine can be at least as important in the grand scheme as a fast lens or a full frame sensor over a DX or C-size, isn't that so?

    Sorry for the AMD rant, yours is the mature point of view. I built an AMD box ten years ago after researching it forever and never forgot the Bambi-meets-Godzilla struggle then underway. (BTW: It won't be news to you that motherboards are now out with G-34 and C-32 sockets — dual processor boards — along with 6100-series Opteron IIs. A pair of 6128s (8x @, 2Ghz) plus for example a Supermicro H8SGL-O Opteron 6100/ AMD SR5650/ V&2GbE/ ATX Server Motherboard — can be had altogether for just over $700, last I looked.) This will be the “Bulldozer” socket, so maybe those boards can survive some major upgrades, chipsets permitting. Will dual processors figure in your top-of-the-line build?

    Thanks again for what you're doing! I've contributed once and will again.

  • Jerry

    Forgot to add, concerning the memory, that all sticks are G.Skill with identical part numbers.

  • Josh

    I am looking to get a 1U rackspace, do you have a similar build and price for a 1U?
    Just a suggestion to maybe if you could add?

    Best Regards!

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Jerry,

    The 24GB (6x4GB) kit is back in stock, at a price of $500. Compared to two kits of 12GB (3x4GB each), that's an $80 difference.

    What's the difference between the two (One 6x4GB/24GB kit and Two 3x4GB/12GB kits)? Simple: The kit with six sticks had those six sticks tested together, to ensure compatibility, reliability and that they all function at their rated frequency, timings and voltage.

    Each of the two kits of 12GB were tested separately as a 12GB kit and while they might just work fine together as a 24GB kit, there are no warranty of that and you might just keep banging your head on the wall trying to get two 12GB kits to work together.

    My opinion? Pay the extra $80 for the 24GB kit, to avoid possible issues. If we were talking about two 2 x2GB kits to do a 8GB kit, you might have been fine, but 12/24GB kits are higher-density and newer, hence more prone to compatibility issues and the like.

    In the end, two kits of 12GB each might work together, but I just wouldn't bother taking the risk myself, not with a Workstation anyway.

    Besides, the last thing that you need is an unreliable system that crashes due to RAM errors.

    Now, is 12GB enough? It should be as long as you handle 720p, short or longer clips. However, as you move to 1080p and end up with longer projects, you might run out of memory and 24GB will give ample space for years to come, as programs/files become more and more demanding.

    This machine will have no problem handling what you intend to do, although expect lower performance when you switch from 720p to 1080p, which is perfectly normal, since you're moving up from 22.1 MP/sec (1280×720 (720p) x24fps) to 49.8 MP/sec (1920 x 1080 (1080p) x 24fps).

    Seeing as speed matters to you (And really, who doesn't enjoy a fast machine?) and that speed allows you to do more revision in a shorter span of time, I'd highly recommend upgrading the CPU to the Intel Core i7-980X, the 3.33GHz Six-Core CPU that is.

    As you can see in this comparison of the Core i7 950 (default CPU in this $1250 Workstation) and the i7-980X, for a Blu-ray Disc Image Creation (25Mbps MPEG-2), under Sony Vegas Pro 8, the i7-950 takes 186.8 seconds, while the i7-980X takes 137.4 seconds, 49.4 seconds or about 27% less time. Is that kind of speed worth an additional $700 for the i7-980X? I'll leave it up to you to answer that question.

    “Would Firepro V5800 make a big difference for me?”
    No need for a pro card, but a dedicated video card will help keep things displaying smoothly, as well as accelerate a few things under Photshop CS5. I'd go with the Geforce GTS 450, which is based on Nvidia latest generation of video cards, this model for its more silent dual-fan setup: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125341

    No problem for bringing up AMD, I perfectly understand, I was around when Intel was dominated by AMD performance wise, but AMD couldn't grab much of the market due to Intel's shady deals.

    As for the AMD 6100 series, the problem is that Intel still has better performance, since most applications can't take advantage of twelve cores, even less of 24 cores. Anandtech did an excellent review here (Page might take a while to do): http://www.anandtech.com/show/2978/amd-s-12-core-magny-cours-opteron-6174-vs-intel-s-6-core-xeon/

    You will see a dual-processor setup in the $2500 Workstation, but these will be Intel Xeons though. I should be publishing that on Tuesday if all goes well.

    Take care,
    Mathieu

  • Jerry

    Thank you for this detailed explanation. Last time I bought memory 2x 128m seemed like a lot, and it was enough — almost pedantic — to limit these to the same brand. Before that, when Windows was 3.1 and ram $75/m., 4m was enough and nobody complained who remembered the world of 128k, not so long before that — I never would have guessed the requirements of these vast new memories today.

    I now have plenty to scratch my head about. I'm convinced by everything you write, but now the $1600 (with OS and monitor) is over $2500 (thought I'd triple the storage since it was only $90 more — hope there's no downside there I don't yet know about!).

    So I've joined the line waiting for your $2500 workstation — it would be a great idea if you could include DOWNGRADES as well as ups, for each item, so we could try to whittle away some… $1k just for a chip…. that's TWO of your $500 workstations complete… arghhh….

    I guess these dilemmas are what system-building is all about: we get to make our own painful decisions. I've opened negotiations with the dog concerning his standard of living. So far he's refusing a yield up a single nickle, says it's a matter of principle.

  • Joshua

    MathieuB, are you busy?

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Extremely busy, but I always put time aside for my readers, why?

  • Matt

    Any chance you'll be able to post the 2500 workstation soon? My lab is looking into buying a new computer and is in need of recommendations. This is for running scientific simulations which require a large amount of memory. Which I presume will be well-served by your recommendation!

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Matt,

    I plan on posting tomorrow if all goes according to plan. The article is nearly done, I just need to finish editing it.

    As for scientific simulations, what do they run on? CPU processing I'm assuming?

    Just asking because more and more are running on video cards (Using Nvidia CUDA or ATI Stream), because they offer a lot of brute strength, much more than CPUs.

    Just food for thought ;)

    Take care,
    Mathieu

  • Matt

    Yep, they're done on a CPU. I don't think anyone has ported the software we use (Ansoft HFSS and Maxwell) to work with CUDA just yet.

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    What a shame, but I'm not surprised, the shift to GPU computing is just beginning, remind me in a similar way of storage, which is slowly shifting toward flash-based storage (USB sticks, memory cards, SSDs) as the price per GB goes lower and lower.

    I imagine that it involves a LOT of re-programming for a software, not to mention testing, QA and the like.

  • Andrew J

    It may be worth mentioning that none of the LGA 1366 Core i7s support DDR3-1333 RAM without overclocking.

    Also, getting an i7 980X is rather silly when the W3680 is only slightly more and supports DDR3-1333 RAM as well as ECC RAM.

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    Hello.

    Great blog. I really find this site very well done and am about to trust it with a $1200+ investment in a new PC.

    Quick question. I am not interested in the whole RAID setup with 4 500GB hard drives. I find that it currently works fine with perhaps 2 500GB Hard Drives for a total of 1TB space. Would I just buy 2 hard drives instead of 4 and I will be fine?

  • Andrew J

    That would work, but keep in mind if either one of those harddrives fails you lose all your data. You should consider buying two 1TB hard drives and mirroring them for data redundancy.

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    Hello. Some quick questions. The Radeon 6870 is out of stock on Newegg. I looked around but the other Radeon 6870 are made my different companies or something and that confuses me. Could you put a link to another reseller of that exact card please? Also, I've decided to use a SSD (which is also out of stock) for the OS and then just have a 500GB Hard Drive for all my other stuff. Would this work/be smart?

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    Also, would I need to upgrade the PSU if I'm using the 6870 to higher watts?

  • Andrew J

    The XFX Radeon HD 6870 would be a good choice, and it's the only one in stock. Using an SSD as the boot drive and a 500GB hard drive for files and programs is indeed a smart idea.

    How many watts does your current PSU have?

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    Currently have this PSU in my wish list: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088… That's what I plan on getting.

    Also, now that I pretty much used all the basic parts in the above PC except that upgraded PSU, not using RAID 10 but instead a 120GB SSD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167035) only $40 more for 40 GB…. and a 500GB Hard Drive, should I look into buying more fans for the PC or will cooling be enough due to the case?

    Sorry, I am new to PC building..

  • Andrew J

    That power supply will be more than enough to power all those components and that SSD looks good. You won't need to buy anymore fans, the one the case comes with by default are plenty.

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    What about this video card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150476&cm_re=xfx_5870-_-14-150-476-_-Product

    The XFX Radeon 5870. Slightly more expensive, but my friend told me it would be a smarter purchase. Your thoughts? I'm just looking for a great video card to power 2 1080p monitors for the price right around $300.

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    Would you think that prices will be lower on Black Friday or Cyber Monday on Newegg?

    Also, please look at the question above as well..

    Thank you so very much for your support.

  • Andrew J

    If you're planning on just getting a single card the 5870 is more powerful, however if you're planning on upgrading to CrossFire later down the road the 6870 would be a better choice. Both of them would be plenty powerful.

    Prices may very well be lower on Black Friday/Cyber Monday, I would wait a couple days and find out.

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    Ok sorry, last question.

    I want to run dual radeon 6870s, an SSD, about 2 HDDs, the 950 i7 processor. will the 620w PSU still suffice?

  • JasonB

    I'm very interested in getting this build, and getting a Radeon 6870 for the video card. Somewhere down the line I may add a 2nd video card. Will I be able to add a 2nd 6870 and not have to upgrade anything else? Thanks. This would be my first build. Getting some help though. :)

  • Andrew J

    620W will be able to handle all that without a problem.

  • Andrew J

    You would have to upgrade the power supply to the SeaSonic 650W to be on the safe side, but besides from that everything else is compatible.

  • JasonB

    Looks like I would actually need to upgrade to this: PC Power and Cooling Mk II 750W 80 PLUS SILVER Certified

    I looked into it at more detail. Looks like now is the time to buy. A lot of these are on sale right now!

  • JasonB

    I'm also trying to decide whether I should go with 12gb of RAM, I don't plan on having a ton of open programs at a time, and 8gb would probably be plenty. And the 8gb is 100 cheaper at the moment. What do you think?

  • JasonB

    I'm also confused about the Harddrive. This build says Four SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB SATA in RAID 10.
    Total Capacity: 1TB.

    However, on the 1250 Gaming build. It says Two SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB SATA in RAID 0. Total Capacity: 1TB.

    Both links link to the same listing on Amazon.

    Maybe you can set it up with different RAID? I'm not sure exactly what that means, as this is my first build. I've read up on it a little.

    Maybe someone can tell me the difference between the two suggestions in these builds, is there spread, capacity, RAID?

    It might be nice to try and save another $100. Thanks!

  • Andrew J

    8GB should be plenty. Basically if you get four hard drives in RAID10, up to two of them can fail and you don't lose any data. If you have two hard drives in RAID0 and either of them fails you lose all data. Both yield speed increases.

  • Oleh

    Wait why do I need the Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler if there is a CPU heatsink and fan already included?

  • Andrew J

    The Performa cooler gives you less noise, better cooling (longer CPU life), and if you ever want to overclock you can.

  • Oleh

    The one on this build is in RAID 10, which is more reliable while still fast. the other one is RAID 0, which is less reliable. See RAID 0 spits that data into both Harddrives, if one fails, all the files are lost, RAID 10 combines RAID 0 and RAID 5 (if I remember correctly) to get the advantage of speed of RAID 0 and the Reliability of RAID 5 (where it backs up everything).

  • Oleh

    Ohh alright, thanks.

  • Oleh

    A quick question, would overclocking this default setup be safe, and by how much would I be able to overclock without risking serious damage?

  • Andrew J

    You could probably get to 3.6-3.8GHz, just make sure your temperatures are below 70C at load and you’re good.

  • SysBuilder 451

    The previous PSUs I’ve used had the fan power supply on an outboard cable that plugged into the MB. The fan speed could be monitored (ASUS Probe) and adjusted according to need. The recommended PSU appears to lack the separate fan power supply. The reason for this???

  • Andrew J

    Simply put there is no reason for PSU makers to do this. PSUs do not get very noisy at all.

  • Oleh

    2 questons
    1.) when I go to close the hatch on the Sabertooth X58, should the latch arm be bending a little? it seams like way to much pressure, but I definitely put it in the right way, I can’t figure out why that’s happening.
    2.) Which slots should the RAM go into? the brown slots, or the tan ones?

  • Oleh

    for the first question, by hatch I mean for the Processor.

  • Andrew J

    1) Yes, the lever takes quite a bit of pressure to close.

    2) Consult your motherboard’s manual.

  • Oleh

    When I connect the power to the motherboard, should I use the 4 pins or 8 pins? Also, When connecting different parts of the power supply, does it mater what the number on the connectors is (like there are a couple 1′s a 2, 3, 4, ect…)? Also, can I basically hook up any power cable into a power input as long as it fits, or do I need one of the specific ones?

  • Andrew J

    Use 8 pins.

    Yes you can hook up any power cable to any power input as long as it fits.

  • Oleh

    also, which hard drives should I hook the 6gb/s sata cables to? or does it not mater? I’m assuming not since it says there speed on amazon it 300mb/s, so would it be best to hook the all up to 3gb/s, or will I have to use the 6gb/s cables with the 6gb/s ports only?

  • Andrew J

    The cables are identical, if a cable claims to have “SATA 6Gbps support” it’s just marketing, since they’re all the same.

  • Oleh

    Alright thanks, computers almost done, thanks for all your support so far, really helped me get through this :)

  • Oleh

    So basically I bought all of these parts (minimum) and now I got an issue. I don’t really have to money for a new operating system, and I need windows. My current computer has XP 32-bit and it’s OEM. Basically my only choice is to get a bootleg copy of windows 7. My question is, I don’t have any CD’s, so would it be possible to install it with a usb drive?

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Yes, it is possible. There are various guides, to which I can’t link, for obvious legal reasons ;) Just use Google and you should be able to quickly figure it out.

  • Oleh

    The only versions I can find are ones that require you to already have an operating system installed.

  • Oleh

    Nvm, Found something :)

  • http://twitter.com/pRiKaN31 pRiKaN31

    I just purchased my computer. Building it was very easy! I have never built a PC before but I got it done in about an hour with good cable management. Thank you so very much. It would not have been possible without this website. I really do appreciate it greatly. Happy holidays. Enjoy a donation!

  • Peter

    hi
    for past couple weeks i’m looking parts to build a workstation with dual cpu opteron( if not xeon) and i stuck with motherboard .do you know which board is good and support cross fire ?
    thx Peter

  • Jerry

    Hi Mathieu.

    Well, Sandy Bridge is here and Anandtech says the 4-core i7-2600K surpasses the i7 980x at less than 1/3 the 980′s $1000 price; the i5 2500 almost matches the 980 for less than 1/4 the price. Asus seems to have a range of P67 and H67 boards for sale now, and has added USB 3 support on its own (alas the upper limit for memory is 16G (4 x 4) rather than your current 4 x 6, and the memory support is dual rather than triple, though faster).

    This represents a $7-800+ saving already, for the high-powered version of this workstation, and with years of upgrades in store for the socket — eg, an 8-core version by the end of the 2011.

    On the $2500 workstation front, Newegg has been out of the dual Xeon mb (ASUS Z8NA-D6C (MIO) Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5500 ATX) for some time.

    Are you considering a Sandy Bridge version of the $1500? If so I’m sure I won’t be alone in wondering: when??

    Standing by,

    Jerry

  • Jaidubb

    Hi

    I second the request for the i5 SB processor. Let us know if we can expect a build using the new line of processors or if they can be substituted in the $1250 workstation build (which is what I’m interested in building)

    Thanks

  • Kevin

    I’m crazy impatient waiting for an update here!!! Checking multiple times each day and pacing back and forth! LOL This will be my first build and I am very inspired by this site. Hoping to build something that is basically a cross between a desktop and a server. My wife will be taking graphics courses working towards being a Technical Illustrator. Programs like CS5, Maya, Zbrush etc etc. I’m like a total dork at this point gathering ideas. So far I like both the 600T Phantom cases used on these builds. I also like the Silverstone Raven RV02 and Silverstone Fortress FT02 cases. Other components I find impressive are the SeaSonic X750 PSU and the Quadro 4000 GPU. Hoping to give it a go! Thank you for the great site!

  • Kevin

    want to correct myself….I meant that I want to build something that is a cross between a desktop and workstation. Specifically, I’m not sure what to do as far as storage as the recommendations from a gaming system to a workstation system seems different. Thanks again!

  • Bookisch

    Kevin I think Mathieu might be on the point of coming through for you, and this week (ie, Tuesday Jan 18ff) though this is just a guess and I’ve been wrong before. I know exactly how you feel.

  • Kevin

    The wait is killing me! But I think you’re right Bookisch…any day now! I’ve been keeping myself busy trying to get ready. Tonight I’ve been looking at monitors. I’m thinking of setting up with two monitors. So far I kind of like what people are saying about the Dell U2311 monitors….but still doing my homework. As hard as the wait is….I’m pretty sure I will have more questions after the update happens. I’m also undecided about how to configure hard drives. My gut tells me we will need no more than 1 to 2 TB of drive space….but configuring in Raid 1+0 or trying to do regular back ups to an external drive is the big question. You didn’t say Bookisch…but are you a previous patron of this site…or are you waiting for the new builds too? . Okay…back to pacing! LOL

  • Geran

    Are the workstations going to be updated soon?

  • Geran

    Are the workstations going to be updated soon?

  • Andiron

    Supposedly they were probably going to be updated in the next week according what Mathieu said down towards the end of his Gaming builds update. The first article on the Home page I believe? I’m sure perfection takes time! The greatest benefit we have is that any tweaks or nuggets of info that came out of the new gaming builds will get utilized towards our build. I assume this of course. In the mean time I am literally driving myself nuts looking for the PERFECT case for this upcoming build. Don’t even try to help…I’m beyond help! LOL Whatever happens…we may indeed be building our workstations at the same time. Good luck!

  • Deck

    Mathieu.. I tried writing earlier and haven’t heard back from you… so I’ll try once more to see if my question was received.. I would like for you to build me an audio workstation complete with software and components to do the following… I am in the process of recording radio music programming similar to a live DJ at a radio station.. I am retired and would like to this as a hobby.. Old time radio man use to recording an editing to reel to reel.. this is all new so I need guidance on the digital age…I have been encourage by others to take this project on.. and a few radio stations are interested in the programs once I get up and running to make demos…I have inquired to a few of the big online stores but have gotten very little help because of being a begginer and acknowledge that I believe they have been over selling and overkill on what they have presented for my needs…My needs are for a computer that is expandible for future use but will handle music downloads and storing for now…ease of operation for audio recording voice and music mix..(not vocal singing or music instruments) use for a external cd player/recorder.. internal cd/cdrw/dvd.. microphones probably 2 only..monitor/speakers for listening to playback (of decent quality not for blowing the roof off the house)… this will be a home studio project.. and you help and expertise will greatly be appreciated and look forward to hearing your suggestions and response.. Thanks so much… Bob………….. North Carolina

  • JC

    Hi Mathieu
    Msg here is also for newcomers like I was a few months back:
    First time builder who needed a better workstation.
    Changed the NZXT for the Corsair 600T to get in a free shipping deal in Canada, got only 2 F3 hard drive for now and chose the Mk II 750W for future updates.

    It was really easy to build and configure. Had some set backs with the Raid set up vs Windows 7 installation (this ended up useful: http://windows7themes.net/how-to-fix-mbr-in-windows-7.html) but the computer was working nicely (and fast) within a few hours of starting building. Only thing left is upgrading to a better graphic card when I start doing video rendering again and possibly a SSD for the OS and some programs loading.

    To bad I missed the next SandyBridge CPU update but I needed it sooner than later!
    Thanks a lot!

  • Deck

    Mathieu,
    I have written earlier in the week about an audio workstation components and recommendation for you you to build for me.. haven’t heard nback from you and was wondering if you received the information.. Please contact me.. Bob North Carolina

  • JC

    Hi Mathieu,

    quick question regarding cards in this build:
    I already have the HD5570 (but the model with HDMI output for a TV) but would like to add 2 more monitors to my set up. Could I just plug in a Quadro 600? Is Windows 7 going to adequately use both cards to speed up applications and such?

    Keep it up, love your site! I’m recommending your site to all that are thinking of building new computers!!
    Thanks

  • Craig

    I love this site. I totally want to build this workstation, but I want to wait for a Sandybridge build. Are you going to update the workstation builds soon?

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Craig,

    Yes, updates to the Workstations are coming soon. Just finishing a few updates to the Gaming PCs and then the Workstations are next.

  • nh

    Hi Mathieu, love the site!

    Just wondering if the aforementioned updates will be coming soon? I’m in the architecture field in need of a workstation and was hoping to build one before the summer’s up.

  • niem

    Awesome! 

    I too, am in the architectural field looking to build a workstation before the summer’s up. Definitely take most of my knowledge from this site and a few how to videos elsewhere. Look forward to seeing whats up.

  • Chris

    Mathieu,
    New workstation updates soon?

  • Phil

    I am looking forward to updates to Workstation builds.  I have set criteria for every component but there is so much ought there it gets to be really confusing, especially when comments from buyers who say it is “doa” or who note other problems. 

    I am looking for a machine that will handle Photoshop and tools like Photodex Proshow (creates videos from photos, etc.), which I expect will be 64 bit and GPU accelerator compliant in the next release.

    I want the machine to be: 1. Quiet, 2. Energy efficient (nobody seems to include this). 3. Operate at low temperature. 4. Perform well enough so that I am not wasting time – but not so much it costs a fortune to build. 5. And hopefully that most of the main components are from companies at least headquartered in the U.S.   I know the latter is unusual to say, but I find it important for me and my three professionally educated sons.

    Thanks for your excellent work.

  • http://www.hardware-revolution.com/ MathieuB

    Chris,

    I was initially planning to do that in October, but with the Gaming PCs updates taking longer than I thought, I’ll now be updating the Workstations around Mid-November.

    Take care,
    Mathieu

  • Chris

    Thanks Mathieu – looking forward to it!

  • Mets

    What about a computer for music production in programs like FL Studio, Reason, etc ?
    I’m thinking it would be somewhere midway between a workstation and a gaming PC, plus a good soundcard…

  • Woot

    cant wait for an update for this….bout to have enough $ to put together my own this time….well with your help that it lol

  • Woot

    thats what i need as well

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