$400 Gaming PC: Now with even more bang for your buck!

Mathieu Bourgie | July 21, 2010 | View Comments
Sapphire Radeon 4850 GDDR5

The Sapphire Radeon HD 4850, with GDDR5 memory, the video card featured in this $400 Gaming PC.

Last updated on August 24th 2010.

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What is the secret of building a Gaming Computer for $400?

It’s quite simple: Be realistic. For $400, you won’t get that huge tower, with flashy neons, LEDs and water-cooling (Although that’s available as an upgrade ;) ).

However, you can and will get very respectable performance, plenty enough to handle gaming at a 1440 x 900 or lower resolution with good graphic quality and still a very nice case. Mind you, gaming at a resolution of 1680 x 1050 is possible with most games if you’re ready to sacrifice a bit of visual quality or by simply upgrading the video card.

This version compared to the previous version of the $400 Gaming Build (Last Updated on August 24th 2010):

  1. The Motherboard was changed from an ASRock N68-S to a Foxconn A74ML-K. They both have similar features, with the Foxconn A74ML-K using DDR3 instead of DDR2.
  2. The RAM was upgraded from Geil 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz to G.Skill 2x2GB DDR3 1333MHz.
  3. Video card: This build now features a Radeon HD 4850 with GDDR5 memory, instead of the Radeon HD 4850 with GDDR3 memory.
  4. The Hard Drive got a bump from 160GB to 320GB by upgrading the previous Western Digital 160GB to the Samsung Spinpoint F4 320GB. This also provides a nice bump in performance.
  5. The Case was changed from a Rosewill TU-155 w/ 500W power supply to a Rosewill R519-BK w/ 500W Power Supply, which is $10 less expensive, features to same power supply and has a nice simple look.
  6. The Network LAN RJ-45 connection got a bump from 10/100Mbps to 1000Mbps.
  7. Other than that, the build is unchanged and now costs $405 instead of $406, a whopping $1 reduction!

As you can tell, for the same price, you can even more performance than before!

Is this the right type of PC for me?

If you’re looking for a PC to play video games, you’re at the right place. If this is not what you’re looking for, check out our other Computer Systems instead.

$400 Gaming computer hardware parts recommendations, short version:

Explanation:

  • In the left column, you have the component type, such as the Processor, Video Card, etc.
  • In the middle column, you have the specific brand, model and a quick look at specifications for that part, as well as a link to buy it.
  • In Bold, you’ll find my recommendations for the parts that you should buy in order to have the best overall performance while fitting the overall budget.
  • In Italic, you’ll find the best possible upgrades if you have money to spare. These are the parts that offer better features or more performance, while still being relatively affordable in regard to the overall budget. In simple terms, if you want a more powerful video card, pick it from the list of recommended upgrades that are in Italic.
  • In the right column, you’ll find the best price that I found after double-checking at various trustworthy online sellers such as Amazon.com, NewEgg.com, Buy.com and others.
  • If upgrades just don’t cut it, visit the Gaming PCs page, where you’ll find our other gaming computer custom build designs.
  • Note that all upgrades are compatible with the rest of the system, as well as other upgrades, meaning that you can choose one or many upgrades without a problem. Of course, please carefully read any note(s) that I may leave to clarify and avoid some possible issues.

Required components:

Components Make, Model and Specifications Price
CPU/Processor AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz Dual-Core AM3 65W
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Dual-Core AM3 65W
AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz Triple-Core AM3 95W
AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz Triple-Core AM3 95W
AMD Athlon II X4 635 Propus 2.9GHz Quad-Core AM3 95W
$58
$63
$75
$81
$99
Motherboard Foxconn A74ML-K AM3 AMD 740G Micro ATX $45
RAM G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333MHz $81
Video Card Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit DDR5
Radeon HD 5770 1GB
$100
$145
Hard Drive SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB SATA
Samsung F3 500GB SATA II 3.0Gb/s
Samsung F3 1TB SATA II 3.0Gb/s
$43
$52
$70
Optical Drive LITE-ON Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner $18
Power Supply Rosewill 500W Power Supply Included with the Case Free
Case Rosewill R519-BK w/ 500W Power Supply
COOLER MASTER RC-P100-RKR1 w/ 550W Power Supply
$60
$80
Cooling AMD CPU Stock Cooler included with CPU
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 120mm CPU Cooler
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound

CORSAIR All-in-One Water-Cooling CPU Cooler
Rosewill RFA-80-K 80mm Case Fan
Free
$25
$8
$80
$2
Sound 6 channels sound card: Integrated on the motherboard Free
Network Ethernet RJ-45 10/100 Mbps: Integrated on the motherboard Free
Total price Not Including OS, Shipping nor handling. Within -/+ 5% of Budget
$405

Accessories:

Accessories Make, Model and Specifications Price
Headphone Rosewill RH-40C 3.5mm Circumaural
SONIC HP-259 3.5mm Circumaural
PLANTRONICS .Audio 355 3.5mm Circumaural
SENNHEISER PC31 Dual 3.5mm Supra-aural
KOSS SB45 3.5mm Circumaural
Logitech G330 3.5mm/ USB Circumaural
ABS AZ1 Circumaural USB
SENNHEISER PC151 3.5mm Binaural
$7
$8
$20
$28
$30
$43
$50
$50
Speakers Logitech X-140 5 watts 2.0
Creative Inspire T3130 15 Watts 2.1
Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1
$27
$50
$89
Monitor ASUS VH198T Black 19″ 5ms LED 1440 x 900
Samsung BX2035 20″ 2ms 1600×900 LED
ASUS VW224U Black 22″ 2ms 1680 x 1050
$130
$180
$170

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  • Can you suggest me a step by step guide to build a computer?
  • Why should I build a PC instead of buying one in a store?
  • And many more…

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About Gaming PCs:

Gaming Computers are all about playing video games. Every year, new video games that pushes the boundaries of visual effects are released and demand more and more power from your computer to run. Being so powerful to handle cutting-edge video games, they are also very good all-around computers, capable of handling photo/video edition, web development, High Definition content playback and much more.

This is why our Gaming Builds Designs focus both on current performance for today’s games, as well as being ready to upgrade, to be ready to handle future games. For Gaming Builds Designs, a big portion of the budget goes to the Video Card and the Processor to ensure high performance in video games, as well as a solid power supply with a case with good cooling abilities, to ensure reliability.

Upgrades will usually focus on the processor and video card for enhanced performance, as well as on the power supply and cooling, to enhance overclocking capabilities. You may choose to upgrade the hard drive for more capacity, or change the case to get one that matches your personal preferences, such as look, cooling, size, etc.

$400 Gaming Computer Hardware parts recommendations, detailed version:

Motherboard:

Foxconn A74ML-K

Foxconn A74ML-K AM3 AMD 740G Micro ATX

A basic, yet reliable motherboard at a great price that supports everything in this system. Come with four USB ports, two PS/2, DVI and VGA output, 1000 Mbps LAN and 6 Channels audio on the back.

One PCI-Express 16X, one PCI-Express 1X and two PCI slots, four SATA ports and the usual IDE port, etc.

If you wonder who Foxconn is, they are a large electronics hardware manufacturer. They manufacture many OEM parts for big corporations such as HP and Apple. They are well known in the PC industry, just not so much by the average consumer.

CPU:

AMD Athlon II X2 245

AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz Dual-Core AM3 65W

The other contenders in the same price range would have been the Intel E5300 (2.6GHz $67) or E5400 (2.7GHz $70).

I picked the AMD Athlon II X2 245 over them for the following reasons:

  • The motherboard ($45) & CPU ($59) are less expensive with the AMD platform, a critical advantage when you’re on a tight $400 budget.
  • The AMD Athlon II X2 245 outperforms the more expensive E5400 ($70) when it comes to gaming in five benchmarks out of six. In the one benchmark that it lost, it was by a single FPS. In the five benchmarks that it won, it usually was by a decent margin.
  • Here are the said benchmarks comparing the E5300/E5400 and the X2 245 for you:
  1. Half-Life 2
  2. Crysis
  3. FarCry 2
  4. Unreal Tournament 3
  5. H.A.W.X.
  6. Left for Dead 4
  • You get more value out of upgrading with AMD CPUs as you can see below.

Recommended upgrades:

  1. AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Dual-Core AM3 65W – For $5 ($63) more, you get the same CPU, but with an additional 100MHz.
  2. AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz Triple-Core AM3 95W - For $17 ($75) more, you get an extra 100MHz and, more importantly, you gain a very valuable third core. Most games use two cores, which mean that the third core handle background programs, such as anti-virus, allowing the two first cores to focus on the game, thus increasing the performance compared to a dual-core processor.
  3. AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz Triple-Core AM3 95W – For $23 more ($81), you get an additional 200MHz and an extra core.
  4. AMD Athlon II X4 635 Propus 2.9GHz Quad-Core AM3 95W – For gaming, right now most games don’t take advantage of a quad-core, making this quad-core at a disadvantage compared to the two previous triple-core CPUs with higher frequencies. However, this CPU shines when it comes to multi-tasking and audio/video converting. Also, this CPU is more future-proof, as future games will more and more take advantage of additional cores. It’s not THE fastest CPU for gaming purposes in this build, but rather a very good all-around performer.
  5. For additional options, check out our guide to The Best CPUs For Your Money. Make sure to double-check compatibility with sockets, chipsets and memory if you pick another CPU. You can also leave a comment to ask me ;)

Video Card:

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR5

Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit DDR5

For $100, you’ll not find a card that offers as much performance, as I pointed out in our latest edition of The Best Video Cards For Your Money series of articles.

The Radeon HD 4850 is capable of handling any games at a resolution of 1440 x 900 with high visual quality or at 1680 x 1050 with high details in most games, although you might have to lower details in the most demanding games.

Finally, it is HDCP Ready and will handle Blu-Ray and other 1080p content playback, with audio over HDMI as well.

This particular Radeon HD 4850 card features GDDR5 memory, instead of the usual GDDR3 found on other Radeon HD 4850 cards. This translates in higher bandwidth and higher performance, making this Radeon HD 4850 perform close to the Radeon HD 4870. In comparison to the Radeon HD 57xx series, the GDDR3 Radeon HD 4850 performs on par with the Radeon HD 5750, while the Radeon HD 4870 performs on par with the Radeon HD 5770. Expect the GDDR5 Radeon HD 4850 to perform in between the two.

Recommended upgrades:

  1. Radeon HD 5770 1GB – A great upgrade if you intend to play the latest games at a resolution of 1680 x 1050 or most games at 1920 x 1080. This card offers performance on the level of the older Radeon HD 4870 1GB, while consuming way less power at idle (15W!) and at load (108W) than any card offering this level of performance thanks to the 40nm process it’s based on. Support DirectX 11 as well.
  2. Other, more powerful options are available in our guide to The Best Video Cards For Your Money. Make sure to consider power requirements and the length of a video card if you decide to go with a different card. Also very important: A very powerful video card will be useless in a low-end Gaming PC, you want to balance the components to avoid having your CPU limit your video card for example.

RAM:

G.SKILL 4GB DDR3 1333MHz

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit

4GB of RAM is pretty much mandatory to handle the latest video games along with Windows and background background such as your anti-virus, web broswer, music/video player, etc.

Considering the price of RAM these days and the ever-expending memory use of games and programs, 4GB of high-speed DDR3 memory is a no-brainer.

I went with G.SKill for their high reliability and compatibility with the majority of motherboards. I chose these particular sticks due to their low price.

Hard Drive:

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB SATA

Who said that a budget build meant a slow hard drive?

The Samsung Spinspoint F4 320GB is the latest hard drive from Samsung and what a drive it is! For a mere $43, you get one of the fastest hard drives currently on the market, with a 320GB storage capacity, plenty enough to handle your video/music collection and all your programs. Uses the SATA interface and comes with a 3 years warranty.

320GB isn’t enough for you? No problem, take a look at my Recommended upgrades:

  1. Samsung F3 500GB SATA II 3.0Gb/s – ($52) For $9 more, you get an extra 180GB.
  2. Samsung F3 1TB SATA II 3.0Gb/s – ($70) Over three times the capacity for $23 more.
  3. Interested in SSDs (Solid State Drives), RAID or want a different drive? I invite you to take a look to our guide to the Best Hard Drives & Best SSDs For Your Money.

Optical Drive:

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner

LITE-ON Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner

This drive is able to read and burn CDs and DVDs. Silent, compatible with all major formats including DVD-RAM.

The motherboard includes two SATA cables (One will be used for the hard drive and one for this DVD Burner), so no need to worry about cables.

Also, seeing as DVD Burners are often go out of stock lately, here are a two alternatives that you can use to replace it. All are SATA based.

  1. LITE-ON Black 24X SATA Black CD/DVD Writer
  2. HP Black 24X SATA 24X CD/DVD Writer – Retail

Case:

Rosewill R519-BK

Rosewill R519-BK w/ 500W Power Supply

For $60, this case from Rosewill also comes with a very decent 500W power supply, making it an excellent choice for this $400 Gaming PC. It offers a relatively nice design, with a glossy black finish (It all depends on your tastes right?)

The case comes with one 120mm case fan on the back. That’s nothing spectacular, but for a $60 case that comes with a decent 500W power supply, I wouldn’t complain. Besides, that’s good enough for this build.

Power Supply:

Rosewill 500W Power Supply Included with the Case

This power supply is capable of delivering up to 500W, not that should rely on this information only as I often point in posts such as Warning: 6 Surefire Ways of Blowing Up Your Computer Due to an Inadequate Power Supply, but more importantly 31A on the 12V line, the most important factor when it comes to choosing a power supply for a gaming computer.

Best of all, it is 80 PLUS certified, meaning that it’s always at least 80% efficient, resulting in less heat, more silence and a lower electricity bill for you.

Power Consumption:

According to the eXtreme Power Supply Calculator, it is estimated that this system will consume at load (peak usage):

  • 283W with the recommended Athlon II X2 245 and the Radeon 4850.
  • 257W with an Athlon II X3/X4 and a Radeon 5750.
  • 276W with an Athlon II X3/X4 and a Radeon 5770.
  • 312W with an Athlon II X3/X4 and a Radeon 4850. This is the worse case scenario.

This goes to prove how efficient these new Radeon 57xx cards are, especially compared to the older Radeon 4850. The power supply will have no problem handling any of the recommended upgrades, even in the worse case scenario. However, if you intend on overclocking, I cannot recommend enough that you upgrade the power supply. To pick the right one, set some time aside and read Warning: 6 Surefire Ways of Blowing Up Your Computer Due to an Inadequate Power Supply.

Cooling: Stock cooling

To save on costs, I recommend using the cooler included with the CPU. While there are better coolers, the one that is included is good enough to handle the cpu under normal operation. The case includes cooling fans as well to help you keep your system cool.

However, there are two reasons why you may choose to upgrade your cooling system:

  1. To keep your computer components cooler, which in return extend their lifespan and allows you to overclock to higher speed.
  2. To keep your system silent, as the stock cooling can get noisy at times, especially during prolonged gaming sessions.

Alternatives:

  1. Cpu Cooler: If you have any intention of overclocking, I cannot stress enough the importance of a good cooler.The COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 120mm CPU Cooler offers the best value regarding performance for the price.
  2. Thermal Compound: Use the ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound either with the stock cooler or better, with the upgraded CPU cooler to lower your CPU temperatures further more. For $8, this is a wise investment.
  3. Case cooling:You can add up to two additional 120 mm fans in the Rosewill case, both in the front. At $2 a pop, you should consider adding at least one, if not two Rosewill RFA-80-K 80mm Case Fan in order to improve airflow, lower the temperatures in your system and make your PC last.

Sound Card: 6 channels sound card: Integrated on the motherboard

Integrated with the motherboard, this sound card will handle many different sound setups, including headphones, a microphone and more. While integrated audio on a PC used to be absolutely horrible, it has gotten much better in the last few years, thus why I have no trouble recommending it.

Network: Ethernet RJ-45 10/100 Mbps LAN: Integrated on the motherboard

Integrated with the motherboard, this network adapter will allow you to access your local network and Internet.

Accessories:

Headphones – With a Microphone:

Headphones, with a microphone, are a must for many games, especially First Person Shooters (FPS), where a lack of team communication can break a team. However, I do realize that we all have different tastes when it comes to headphones, as in which size is comfortable, which brand sounds the best, etc. This is why I found eight great pair of headphones, with prices ranging from $7 to $50, for you to choose from:

  1. Rosewill RH-40C 3.5mm Circumaural
  2. SONIC HP-259 3.5mm Circumaural
  3. PLANTRONICS .Audio 355 3.5mm Circumaural
  4. SENNHEISER PC31 Dual 3.5mm Supra-aural
  5. KOSS SB45 3.5mm Circumaural
  6. Logitech G330 3.5mm/ USB Circumaural
  7. ABS AZ1 Circumaural USB
  8. SENNHEISER PC151 3.5mm Binaural

Speakers:

If all you want is a pair of decent, inexpensive speakers, the Logitech X-140 5 watts 2.0 at $27, or the Creative Inspire T3130 15 Watts 2.1 for $50 will do a great job.

Looking for higher quality speakers, without breaking the bank still? The Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 make for an excellent and affordable 5.1 setup.

Display:

For a long time, you’ve been asking for recommendations for a good monitor to play on. I’m listening to you and starting today, with this $400 Gaming PC, I’ll be including a few recommendations of good monitors for every Gaming PC.

My recommendations are based on the following criteria:

  • Price: I obviously won’t recommend a $500 monitor if the budget for the PC is $400.
  • Resolution: The resolution of the monitor directly impacts the performance within video games, as higher resolution are more demanding on the system, resulting in lower FPS. Picking the right resolution for a particular system is crucial to achieve good performance.
  • Response time: The lower the better, very important with video games.
  • Brightness and Contrast Ratio: The higher, the better.
  1. With its resolution of 1440 x 900, the ASUS VH198T Black 19″ 5ms LED 1440 x 900 is my main recommendation for the $400 Gaming PC, as it is, without upgrades. This Build will have no problem offering excellent performance in all video games on this monitor. It is also the best option to be able to play future video games without upgrading, or at least, not as soon.
  2. If you play all, but the most demanding games (i.e. Crysis), the $400 Gaming PC, as it is, without upgrades, will be capable of handling the 1600 x 900 resolution of the Samsung BX2035 20″ 2ms 1600×900 LED. If you do intend on playing the most demanding video games, or simply want to be more future proof, I highly recommend upgrading the video card to a Radeon HD 5770 (See the video card section).
  3. If you play older, less demanding games, the $400 Gaming PC will be capable of rendering them without a problem on the ASUS VW224U Black 22″ 2ms 1680 x 1050. If you do intend on playing the most demanding video games, or simply want to be more future proof, upgrading the video card to a Radeon HD 5770 (See the video card section), is a must, unless you are enjoy lag for some reason…

Recommended operating systems:

The operating system cost, if there’s one, is not included in the total cost. The two reason for this are:

  1. The budget only considers hardware.
  2. You may be able re-use a previous license, go with an open-source OS such as Linux or , if you’re so inclined and are aware of what you’re doing, use torrents.

If you decide that you need a need OS, here are some recommendations:

Windows 7

Despite Linux gaining more and more support, Windows still is the platform of choice for compatibility at the moment. Considering that you’ll have 4GB of RAM or more, along with a dedicated video that also has memory (512MB or 1GB), you’ll need a 64-bit version, as 32-bit is limited to 4GB of memory for the entire system, which is not enough now, nor in the future if you decide to upgrade.

Windows 7 is by far better than Windows Vista, looks better, more functional, less annoying, consumes less resources and brings DirectX 11 to the table.

Three Available Versions:

  1. Windows 7 Home Premium: The basic edition, with all the looks, most of the functionality and DirectX 11.
  2. Windows 7 Professional: If you want the virtual XP mode, you’ll need at least the Professional edition. Also required if you want to backup to a network, using the built-in backup mode in Windows.
  3. Windows 7 Ultimate: To help protect data on your PC and portable storage devices against loss or theft with BitLocker and to work and switch between 35 languages.

OEM vs Retail:

The OEM version allows you to only install it once on a computer. You cannot transfer the license to another computer in the future and you do not receive support from Microsoft. It’s the same type of license you get when you get Windows on a desktop or laptop that you buy from Dell, HP and such. It’s less expensive, but gives less flexibility. Ideal if you intend on keeping your computer for many years.

The Retail version is the full version, which allows you to transfer the license to another computer in the future and you can call Microsoft if you need any form of support. Ideal if you intend on upgrading/changing your computer down the road.

Other than that, you get the same features on both, only the license differs. The price between the two differs obviously.

OEM Versions:

  1. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM – $100
  2. Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit OEM – $140
  3. Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit OEM – $175

Retail Versions:

  1. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Retail – $180
  2. Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Retail – $258
  3. Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Retail – $276

Linux

A lot of people these days boots more than one OS. Linux is a wonderful choice: powerful, cool, and cheap. Take your pick of distributions and have fun! For Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, Slackware, and Mandrake, try Distrowatch.com, Cheapbytes.com, LinuxQuestions.org or one of the many others.

While Linux does not offer the wide compatibility of Windows with video games, gaming on Linux is still possible, through projects such as Wine, Cedega and Crossover. For more on the topic of Linux Gaming, I invite you to read this excellent article from AnandTech: Linux Gaming: Are we there yet?

What about Word processing, Excel and other Windows-based programs that you need? Linux being an open platform, there are many free alternatives that will answer your needs. For Word/Excel and such, try OpenOffice.

Cost: Free

Conclusion

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Let me know what you think by leaving a comment below.

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About Mathieu Bourgie: Hi, nice to meet you! I’m a computer enthusiast with 10 years of experience in building, fixing and modifying computers. I opened up my first computer case over a decade ago, to see what it was made of, how it works and over time I’ve developed a great passion for computers, especially for all the hardware and bits that makes it happen. In the month of April 2008, I launched Hardware Revolution and ... Read more at my about page. .

  • Anishjoshi15
    OH wait, forget the price I said, its not right
  • Anishjoshi15
    I need your help! An alternative to the Foxconn Motherboard, the Case, and the Power Supply please!

    These are the components I chose (Changed around a few):

    CPU/Processor: AMD Athlon II X3 445 / 3.1 GHz - Socket AM3 - L2 1.5MB 95W
    Motherboard: Undecided! Need your help finding one!
    RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333MHz
    Video Card: Sapphire HD5770 1GB DDR5
    Hard Drive: Samsung F3 500GB SATA II 3.0Gb /s#
    Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner
    Power Supply: Undecided! Need your help finding one!
    Case: Undecided! Need your help finding one!
    Cooling: AMD CPU Stock Cooler Included with XPU
    Sound: 6 Channels sound card: Integrated on the motherboard
    Network: Ethernet RJ-45 100 Mbps: Integrated on the motherboard

    Total Price so far : ( Not including shipping, and doesn't include the stuff I need still! ) £367

    Hope you can help, great site!
  • Anthony
    Hello, first off thanks for the great site I really like how you include alternate choices on everything and the reason behind them. I was wondering about the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus and how wide of a case you need to fit that guy in. The case I have now is only 7" wide and I was hoping it would squeeze in there but that cooler looks much bigger than the 6.2 inches that the specs list it at. Are there any other coolers you recommend that aren't quite as tall. Also is there much differance between Artic Sivler 5 and Artic Cooling MX-2. Thanks and keep up the great work.
  • Anishjoshi15
    Hi, great site and everything, and I'm going to go for it.. one problem though. I live in the UK. I don't really want to buy from a US site, because I want to pay in £££, not $$$. Are these same offers and deals available on UK sites? I was worried that the Case/PSU bundle wouldn't be available..

    PS.
    My computer is about 6 years old now, and my CD Drives and HDD are working fine (HDD is 160GB, and I still have about 30 gigs free ), so can I keep those, and will they still work with the new motherboard? I'll post my current computer here :

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=458301&lang=en&;

    It's a HP Pavillion t849.uk, with mega crap stuff. (According to my dad, it was good when it came out. >.> )

    It would be cheaper to upgrade the graphics card and ram (have 1gb at the moment) from my existing computer, but my crap 300w power supply and my obsolete motherboard would probably explode. (Currently have really crappy integrated intel graphics, one of those stupid Family Chipset things. )

    Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
  • Ryan
    Hey MathieuB.


    Awesome site, I plan to make a computer from one of your guides here and based on how tight money is, (and how much I've always wanted a blazing fast comp) I am torn between the $400 and the $1000 build.

    My only justifcation for wanting the $1000 is to build for the future, I want to make sure that the PC will be able to run any future games for at least the next 4-5 years on 'HIGH' or 'ULTRA'. In addition, I would like to the PC to be as stable as possible.

    My justification for the $400 build is that I want to be able to play past gen games (Company of Heroes, Fallout3, Dawn of War 2) current gen games (SC2, BF:BC2, Supreme Commander) and maybe some future ones (Diablo 3 et. al) with a reasonable framerate without lacking in quality. The only thing I'm concerned with is that I will be compromising the "future-proofness" of the $1000 with this one.

    Any advice?
  • Lunarian
    Awesome site, the really in-depth analysis and explanations cleared up a lot of things I didn't know, such as motherboard and processor types. I originally was looking around these types of sites to try and understand how to get my computer to run better, but this page and build really makes me lean towards buying a new one.

    Right now I'm using an Asus P4s8 mobo and 2.56Ghz P4 with Agp 8x radeon HD 3450. So this computer would be a really significant increase all around if I understand right. I want to play Starcraft 2 reliably, and was looking into getting a 4670 agp 8x graphics card, but after reading through everything you have so thoughtfully detailed I'm not so sure anymore.

    At the moment I only have around 300$ to spend, so I couldn't buy this computer build right now anyway, but the operating system situation is looking menacing to me. To buy windows 7 would cost me another 200$, and that really puts me off.

    So, a question for you please. Can this build run on just Windows XP service pack 3? That is what I have on my current computer, but you only listed Win7 and linux under your recommended OS.
  • Lunarian,

    First of all, thanks for the kind words regarding the website, I'm glad to hear that you like it.

    Indeed, this $400 Gaming PC would be way better than what you have, I'm talking about day and night difference here.

    If you have a monitor with a resolution of 1400 x 1050 or lower, Starcraft II should have no problem running on this $400 Gaming Build.

    Regarding the OS: You can stick to Windows XP, that shouldn't be a problem, since the Radeon HD 4850 and Starcraft II are both compatible with XP SP3.

    Here are a few tips to save on costs too:
    You can re-use your current CD/DVD drive, the motherboard in this build will support it. -$20
    You can scale down on the memory, by going with 2GB (2x1GB dual-channel memory kit) here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148194
    With a cost of $45, you'll save another $36.

    No games uses more than 2GB of RAM yet, you won't be able to fully access 4GB of RAM without a 64-bit OS and besides, XP uses less resources than Vista or W7, so 2GB would be just fine for now. You can easily upgrade to 4GB and W7 64-bit later on if you want to.

    Hope that helps, let me know if you have other questions.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • Lunarian
    Many thanks Mathieu, this is looking better all the time.

    I already have a case, it's really old and dingy but usable. It is 16.5 X 8 X 15.75, and two 120mm air cooling fans. I also have a power supply unit: A CoolMax 140mm silent fan, model V-600 600 watts PSU.

    My monitor is Prineton Digital VL1716 with a maximum resolution of SXGA 1280 x 1024.

    I already have a 500Gb Sata drive also, so I don't need that 45$ hard drive either.

    If my power supply and fans are good quality and sufficient then I might not need a new case.

    Basically my follow up question is, does my above mentioned specs work well with this build? At the absolute minimum I'm thinking I could just buy the processor, motherboard, memory and video card.

    Oh, my father has helped me see a few more questions. Since the motherboard comes with integrated sound, is there a slot to put in a sound card if something happens to it? Also, does the PSU that comes with the Rosewill case have surge protection? We can't find information on that.

    Here's the short bulletin version of my questions:

    - Are my specifications listed adequate for the rig?
    - Does the motherboard have room for a sound card?
    - Does the PSU in the case have surge protection?

    Thank you again very much, you're great helping us novice's out like this.
  • Lunarian,

    Your current case(Although if you could find the brand/model of it,it would help me confirm that it would work with this build 100% for sure) and power supply should do the job for this build. The monitor is a perfect match for this build, so is your hard drive.

    At the absolute minimum I'm thinking I could just buy the processor, motherboard, memory and video card. That shouldn't be a problem.

    Regarding your questions:
    - Are my specifications listed adequate for the rig? Yes.
    - Does the motherboard have room for a sound card?Yes, either a PCI-based one, which would fit in the bottom PCI slot (In white, the video card will take the PCI-Express 16x slot and will block the top PCI slot) or a PCI-Express 1x-based sound card, which would fit in the PCI-Express 1x slot, in yellow, above where the video card will go.
    - Does the PSU in the case have surge protection? Yes.

    Hope that helps, let me know if you have other questions.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • Lunarian
    Hey Mathieu, as always thanks for responding to my questions.

    Unfortunately halfway through the day after I posted my questions, my dad proposed we pool our resources together and share the costs, so most of the things I wanted to know doesn't really apply anymore. Still good things to know for understanding though.

    We decided to go with a mix of the 400$ and 500$ build.

    - PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor

    - MOTHERBOARD: ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

    - PSU: SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

    - CASE: Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan

    - MEMORY: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit

    - VIDEO CARD: SAPPHIRE 100245DDR5L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

    I don't see any conflictions with this setup and we just ordered it yesterday, but your own opinion would certainly be welcome.

    There is another thing of note I wanted to ask about if you wouldn't mind. I've seen you say your learned in the recent games, and starcraft 2 is among them. I was wondering if you could help me understand the way resolution works.

    I ask because I had recently watched a lot of replays online at youtube and then when I went to play again myself everything seemed huge for the screen, like it was zoomed in, but couldn't zoom out anymore.

    When I look under the resolution's under options the highest I see is 1280 x 1040. Is that directly related to my monitor or my graphics card? With the more powerful Gcard I'm getting will I be able to force it in anyway to a higher resolution? Or, is that only possible with one of those special HD monitors?

    By the way, if I'm off track on any of my assumptions please feel free to brutally correct me. Thanks again for the wonderful advice and sharing of expertise.
  • Seth
    I was just wondering... Is this case even able to handle the 4850? From what I've read, It runs really hot, and in a low end case like this I'm scared it might break or something rather fast. Investing in a card that requires its own cooler at that pricepoint seems like a bad investment with the amount of cards on the market.
  • Seth,

    I wouldn't recommend the 4850 in this setup if I wasn't 100% confident that it will run just fine in it.

    The case comes with some ventilation holes on the side panel, next to where the 4850 will be sitting, so it will be able to pull some fresh air in, while the exhaust 120mm fan will take care of exhausting the heat.

    The problem comes from a perception point of view. People see a video card running at 70-80-90C at load and think it's too hot, because they are used to CPUs that have to be kept under 60C ideally.

    However, GPUs can handle more heat and Radeon GPUs are fine for long-term operation as long as you keep them under 100C. Sure, it sounds like a lot of heat and quite frankly, 100C is hot if you touch it with your bare hand (Don't...), but the GPU can handle it over long-term.

    If you look at customer reviews of the 4850 that I recommend, you see them say that their 4850 runs in the 60C-70C range, which is just fine.

    Sure, with a better case, it would run cooler, but the Radeon HD 4850 will run just fine in this case.

    Hope this clears it up for you.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • User681
    Would this build be able to run crysis/GTA4 at 1600x1200 at max settings??
    also how future proof is this build??
  • User681,

    Crysis and GTA4 are very demanding games and the $400 build just isn't powerful enough to run them. For a smooth gameplay with these games at max settings, the $700 Gaming Computer is what I would recommend to you.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • User681
    Hi MathieuB
    What about the 500$ build?? That one seems solid and from what I've seen on youtube it seems like it (radeon 5750) could run crysis/ArmA 2 at relatively high settings just fine at a reasonable resolution
  • User681,

    If you don't mind shutters and lag and/or dropping details settings, then you could get by with the $500 Build. Watching videos on youtube and actually playing the game are two completely different things ;)

    If you want a smooth, lag free experience with maxed out details, the $700 build is what you'll want to go with.

    Take a look at Radeon 5750 benchmarks with Crysis at 1680 x 1050. Take a look at MINIMUM FPS, aka lag spikes that you would experience. Sure, the game is "playable", but it's not a fun experience, it's plain frustrating.

    The decision is yours, this is just my honest opinion.

    Cheers,
    Mathieu
  • First Timer again
    I was wondering if you could help me out with some questions. Lets say I buy the case you recommend and then buy the amd triple core processor that goes at 3.1 ghz and add the Radeon HD 4870 1GB to my rig. Will the case power and cool my syetem or are these two choices incompatible?
  • First Timer,

    A Radeon HD 4870 would be too demanding on the power supply and case(cooling), it would be much better suited to the $500 Gaming Computer

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • First Timer again
    So if I took the case and power supply from the 500 dollar gaming computer but kept all the other things listed in this section (motherboard, Ram, optical drive, hard drive, and processor) and add in the Radeon HD 4870, would that all work together and cool itself?
  • First Timer,

    Yes, that would be a good setup, with enough power and cooling.

    While not necessary, it would also be a good idea to go with the motherboard and RAM from the $500 Gaming PC, so you get a better chipset (Slightly better performance), along with DDR3(Once again, slightly better performance), making your computer more future-proof and easier to upgrade in the future, allowing you to add RAM or change the CPU instead of having to change the motherboard, RAM and CPU.

    Considering that the motherboard+RAM of the $500 Gaming PC is $142 compared to $130 for the motherboard+RAM of the $400 Gaming PC, I believe that's a small price to pay for what I would consider to be a wise upgrade to go along the Radeon HD 4870, better case and PSU. Obviously, it's up to you, but this is just my honest opinion ;)

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • First Timer
    One last item, if I have a dell sytem restore cd with windows 7 operataing system. Could I use that as my operating system or do I have to go out and buy one because my custom computer wont use the cd to *upload the operating system.
  • First Timer,

    That restore cd will only with the Dell system that it came with. You will
    need a copy of Windows 7, either an OEM/System Builder or a Retail copy. The
    differences between the two, prices and links to buy it are listed in the
    article, toward the end in the Operating System section.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • First Timer
    will a OEM Windoes Vista 64 bit support my ram and 1gb video card?
  • First timer,

    Yes, although why would you want to go with Vista when Windows 7 is clearly
    superior?
  • First Timer again
    money is my reason :P, another thing I have a dell deminson e310. Could I take the hard drive (80 GB) and optical disk drive out of this thing and into my new custom build to save more money?
  • First Timer,

    Good reason, which makes perfect sense =)

    Yes, you could use the hard drive and optical drive from your dell machine and re-use them. You might have to remove a bracket or two that dell might have added, but it's nothing too complicated that you won't be able to figure out. Obviously, keep in mind that the Dell machine will rendered unusable afterward. Just saying that because you could try selling the Dell machine if it works and use the money from the sell towards your new build.

    However, if you use the old hard drive, remember to format it prior to or at the beginning of Windows installation. You wouldn't be able to use the previous copy of Windows located on the drive anyway, since all the hardware changed and Windows won't boot or throw tons of errors at you. Hence why you need to format the drive.

    Hope that helps,
    Mathieu
  • Noob.0
    Hai, the 400/500$ builds look fantastic as far as performance and are exactly what im looking for, but I also need to buy a new monitor, new speakers, and a new keyboard, then windows 7 so its looking like im going to end up spending a lot of money for a new pc :[

    Now I was wondering, should i just settle for a pre-built gaming pc made by iBUYPOWER from newegg since i would get the keyboard and windows 7 with it, or do you think it could be better/cheaper to use your build then buy windows 7 which imo is very expensive on my budget and the rest after?
  • Noob.0,

    I can assure you that if you compare an equivalent iBUYPOWER PC from NewEgg and a Build from here, the build was always end up offering better performance.

    While the iBUYPOWER PC might include the OS, monitor, keyboard and mouse, with this custom build, you get to pick the monitor/mouse/keyboard that you want, which usually are higher quality ones. Also, good luck modifying or upgrading the iBUYBUYER PC, if that's possible at all. Not to mention the warranty issues ;)

    Also, the custom builds use off the shelf parts that are easy to replace and/or upgrade. The parts that I recommend are parts that I believe in, that I would have no problem using myself or using for family/friends. They are hand-picked based on their performance, reliability and price.

    On average, when comparing a custom build vs a retail one:
    You get more performance at the same price
    or
    You get the same performance at a lower price.

    I invite you to compare the parts in the iBUYPOWER PCs and the builds here, I have no doubt that you'll see how better the parts are in the builds here. Besides, does iBUYPOWER let you pick your case? With a custom build, you pick your case. I just published an article yesterday, on The Best Computer Cases for Your Money, with nothing short of 114 different awesome cases.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • Divide
    Hi, i was very intrested in the 400$ computer since money is very tight these days, but i was wondering about the motherboard you recommended. I read some reviews and it seems like its not all that great could u possibly recommend something better? other than that i loved the build.
  • Divide,

    I'm not sure what you read about the motherboard, I'm actually curious, but I can tell you that no of course it's not the greatest, but this motherboard will do the job just fine for this build. Reviews will often compare a motherboard to other models, but of course for $45, you can't expect much more than a basic motherboard.

    If you prefer another motherboard, the Asrock M3A770DE is a good alternative that won't cost too much more.

    However, that motherboard uses DDR3, so you'll need this kit of RAM instead:
    G.Skill DDR3 1333MHz 2x2GB

    Hope that helps,
    Mathieu
  • Hm..
    Great build. Couldn't figure out how to put the extra two fans on, the screws that came with them weren't long enough and for some reason, I can't get an game Steam related working. Other than that, it's a nice computer.
  • ThePilot
    Just wanted to let you know that the case is $90 on Newegg. I assume they went up in price. Just FYI :) Thanks for all you do!
  • ThePilot,

    Thanks for the heads up. This case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147081) goes for $60 and will do the job just fine.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • Yu
    Hey Mathieu, I have another question. Why aren't you a big fan of the HD4870? It is priced around 130-140$ and crushes the 5750. Is it because of 55nm and power consumption?
  • Yu,

    I haven`t recommended the HD 4870 simply because it was mostly out of stock everywhere lately and I can`t recommend a product that you can`t buy obviously.

    Now I see that are a few models back in stock at NewEgg at excellent prices, so I would highly recommend it over the Radeon HD 5750. Keep in mind that this is most likely limited stock that manufacturers are liquidating, so this is probably not something that will last.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • B. John
    Hey, this all very helpful, especially in today's economy, but I am still lost. maybe you can dropkick me in the right direction;

    I am looking for a computer that can run alot of the new, up and coming games for the pc, plus one old one (World Of Warcraft). The new games im interested in are diablo 3, starcraft 2, guild wars 2, and others. Could your $500 dollar PC build run those games optimally? Maybe even your $400? I would not mind turning the graphics down on the games for better fps, but I would rather avoid that if possible. Thank you Mathieu!
  • B.John,

    What's the resolution (resolution, for example: 1680 x 1050, not screen size. Google your monitor model if you're unsure.) of the monitor that you'll be using to play those games?

    I need to know that before I can dropkick you in the right direction ;)

    Cheers,
    Mathieu
  • B. John
    I would have to buy a new monitor, considering the only monitor i have laying around is from 1999 and could probably put a hole in a Scottish castle if u launched out of a trebuchet.
  • ThePilot
    Yeah, just wondering...what would the performance be like using this build on an old 90s monitor? One of those big ol' bulky 1024x768 jobs? :)
  • John,

    You could expect blazing performance, since 1024 x 768 is not very demanding.

    Basically, the higher the resolution, the higher is the amount of pixels/ quantity of information that you see, the more demanding it is on a video card/system.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • First Timer
    Is this the same video card as the one listed above?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102901
  • Yep, except for the brand and slightly different cooler, it is.
  • First Timer
    I was wondering what is the difference between this card:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102901

    and your original video card choice.

    Radeon HD 4850 512MB
  • First Timer,

    Except for the brand and slightly different cooler, there are no difference between the card that you've linked to and the card that I recommend in this build.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • First Timer
    Would this card be to powerful for my cases power supply,

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130023

    Thanks again!
  • First timer,

    Depends on what is the power supply that you have?

    Mind you, that card is several generations behind current products and will offer terrible performance compared to the latest video cards on the market.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • First Timer
    Okay, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions and the time to write this article.

    Thanks a lot!
  • Yu
    Thanks Mathieu. I used your gaming builds as guildlines when I was upgrading my PC, it helped a lot. I have a few questions, how well does the 4850 overclock using the catalyst? How does an overclocked 4770 perform vs the 4850 in terms of performance and power consumption? How much money would I be saving (if any) if I used 1.6v ddr3 ram vs 1.8v ddr2?
  • Yu,

    A Radeon HD 4850 overclocks so so, as it already emits quite a lot of heat, with most cards having an "ok" cooler that gets stressed under overclocking.

    A Radeon HD 4770 will most likely end a step ahead of the Radeon HD 4850, with higher performance and lower power consumption, when they are both overclocked, since the 4770 is produced on 40nm and has more overclocking headroom and a lower power consumption to begin with.

    For DDR2 vs DDR3, prices are pretty much on par. However, motherboards that use DDR2 tend to be a good $15-$30 less expensive compared to their DDR3 counterparts.

    Hope that helps.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • AirJordan
    Minor, very small problem, but otherwise GREAT JOB on this guide!!

    I am ready to press "Checkout" on newegg for the $500 gaming pc (comments closed over there), but the DVD burner you listed does not bring a SATA cable. I don't think the hard drive brings one either. I am not sure which SATA cable to buy on newegg. Does it matter the type or can it be any SATA cable? or must it be SATA 2 ? This is for the $500 gaming build, not this one.

    Would this be OK? http://tinyurl.com/2bomyjd


    2 of my family members will now be using these guides to build gaming pc's.

  • Airjordan,

    The motherboard includes two SATA cables, so no need to worry about that.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • Chingis Khan
    Hey Mathieu - I'm in Mongolia and don't have access to Radeon and AMD components. I have access to Intel, Asus, ASRock, and Nvidia. Could you recommend a CPU/MB combo that would be about equivalent (performance wise) to what you've got in this build? Also, I'm wondering which Nvidia GPU I should use since I'd like to play SCII and L4D2 on awesome settings :D
  • Chingis Khan,

    CPU wise, I would get an Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 or E6500, which seems like the best deals from Intel, although a E5300 or E5400 would do the job too, depending on what's available to you.

    Motherboard wise, my pick would be an ASUS P5G41-M LE/CSM LGA 775 Intel G41, a solid motherboard that supports and includes all you need. If it's not available, the ASUS P5KPL-AM EPU LGA 775 Intel G31 will do the job too. If neither are available, look for a socket 775 motherboard, that supports Wolfdale (45nm) processors and DDR2 (or DDR3 if you prefer), includes at least two SATA cables (one for the DVD Burner and one for the hard drive) with a chipset such as the G31, G41, G43 or P43, which are on the lower-end of the cost spectrum. You can always ask me to double-check if you want.

    Regarding the video card, what's the resolution (example: 1280 x 1024) of the monitor that you will play on? I need to know that to make the right recommendation. If you don't know, simply google the model of your monitor, you should be able to find that information.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • Chingis Khan
    Hey thanks a lot :D My resolution's 1280 x 1024. The GPUs I saw available (at least the good ones) were the 9800 GT, and the 9500 GT.
  • A Geforce 9800 GT would be a perfect match, capable of running pretty much any game maxed out at 1280 x 1024, without costing you an arm and a leg.

    Another good alternative would be either the GT 240 (Similar performance, much smaller power requirements) or the GTS 250 (Slightly higher performance, with lower power consumption.).
  • Grrrrrr
    Ugh, now you ruined my build. I sold my Xbox 360 to buy the $400 gaming build and now you changed it....with no option to look at the previous one.

    I want the G.Skill DDR3. It was $3 cheaper than the new GeIL RAM you added, and it was DDR3, not DDR2. Cheaper and more future proof than this. Ugh.....

    and I also changed my mind today and wanted to upgrade from Dual Core motherboard to the Quad Core and now I can't see the previous version you had on. I don't even know if these motehrboards are compatible with the G.SKiLL RAM and all the other stuff.

    Now I have to scrap my entire build cause I didn't save the page before you ruined it!
  • Take it easy, there's always a way to fix things ;)

    However, you do realize that this version of the $400 Gaming PC is way more powerful than the previous one, right?

    Regarding DDR3 and "future-proofing", like I told Exeneva:
    "As for future-proofing: If I went with DDR3 and a more expensive motherboard, that would have forced me to use a slower video card, making the whole future-proofing pointless, since the video card wouldn't offer enough performance to run future games anyway.

    Future AMD/Intel platforms aren't due until 2011 and won't be available at a price affordable for this build for even a longer period of time, meaning that you can upgrade the CPU and video card for at least another year, if not two, without a problem. Can't upgrade the RAM? So what? Big deal if you ask me, considering how it barely affect performance at this point.

    Of course, if this was a $2000 Gaming PC, DDR2 would indeed be unacceptable. With a $400 budget, you have to make tough choices and trade-offs and I honestly believe that this is the best balance of performance and being future-proof that I could achieve."


    The reason that you can't see the previous version is because I want people to see the latest version of a build, in order for them to avoid ordering older versions that don't perform as well, or that have parts that are no longer available.

    Anyway, I took a screenshot of the previous version, which you can view here, hope that helps you out. With the name of the parts, you can just search on
  • Grrrrrr
    Phew. That screenshot saved meh.

    Thanks
  • The RAM description in the screenshot might not be clear enough for you to find easily on NewEgg, so here's a direct link: here

    Let me know if you need more links.

    Take care,
    Mathieu
  • EBOBO
    Just the update I was looking for! Can't wait for the other tiers coming up. Great work as usual.

    PS: $4! I can get lunch at Costco for two days! Score!
  • Thanks EBOBO.

    Finishing the $500 Gaming PC as I write this. It's going to be a great
    update!

    Cheers,
    Mathieu
  • kevin
    thanks!
  • Exeneva
    You have several typos in there, from places such as in the RAM that say DDR3 when they should say DDR2. Also, compared to the last build that used DDR3, this one seems less future-proof.
  • Exeneva,
    Fixed the DDR3 typo. Sorry about the typos, they are just bound to happen with such long articles (Over 4,500 words), especially as I re-use some sections from previous editions/articles, in order to speed up the writing process. Feel free to correct my typos, I don't mind at all, I actually appreciate it.

    As for future-proofing: If I went with DDR3 and a more expensive motherboard, that would have forced me to use a slower video card, making the whole future-proofing pointless, since the video card wouldn't offer enough performance to run future games anyway.

    Future AMD/Intel platforms aren't due until 2011 and won't be available at a price affordable for this build for even a longer period of time, meaning that you can upgrade the CPU and video card for at least another year, if not two, without a problem. Can't upgrade the RAM? So what? Big deal if you ask me, considering how it barely affect performance at this point.

    Of course, if this was a $2000 Gaming PC, DDR2 would indeed be unacceptable. With a $400 budget, you have to make tough choices and trade-offs and I honestly believe that this is the best balance of performance and being future-proof that I could achieve.

    However, if you do have suggestions to improve this build, feel free to suggest them.

    Cheers,
    Mathieu
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